[TowerTalk] Antenna modeling
Jim Lux
jimlux at earthlink.net
Wed Dec 8 12:07:30 EST 2004
At 09:44 AM 12/8/2004 -0600, R. Kevin Stover wrote:
>Hello all.
>
>I'm planning a tower install this next spring and am getting deep into the
>planning and a have a few questions.
>
>#1. How do you model commercial antennas without the dimensions of said
>antenna?
> I'd like to be able to model the antenna before buying it
How good does the model fidelity need to be? Are you interested in the
general pattern, assessing interactions, or what? If you're looking for
essentially qualitative data: "Does antenna B screw up the pattern of
antenna A when they're stacked 6 feet apart?" then your modeling can be
pretty rough and ready, because what you're really looking for is what (if
any) currents are induced by one antenna on the other (or the structure).
Some mfrs will provide dimensions, or you can look in the manuals, or, you
can ask here on the list.
>#2. How do you model something like a Cushcraft X7 with the log feed section?
If you have mechanical dimensions, it can be modeled. It might be
hideously tedious because you might have to model each little piece. The
manual for that antenna gives most of the mechanical dimensions
(http://www.cushcraft.com/support/pdf/x7.pdf).
Depending on the fidelity of the model you want, you might be able to model
the transmission line segments as round conductors with the same
circumference as the cross section perimeter. You'll definitely need to
model the boom.
Think carefully about how good a model you really need, because this could
be quite a project.
>#3. When modeling an antenna with traps how do you know what values to
>plug in as loads for the traps?
Measurement? Ask mfr? Ask other hams who have one? Model it from physical
dimensions, and adjust trap values until the SWR curves look like the ones
in the spec sheet.
>
>I was planning on 4el SteppIR and an XM240 on a 70ft AN Wireless tower
>then I got to thinking about feeding the tower for 160m and using the
>beams for toploading. That won't work too well if the dimmensions and thus
>toploading provided by the SteppIR change all of the time so I'm now
>looking for traditional beam designs. Since Cushcraft is the only
>manufacturer to my knowlege that provides manuals for the products online,
>and I can use those dimensions to get an idea of how the system will
>perform, they've moved to the head of the pack.
Since the SteppIR is such a wonderful antenna, for other reasons, why not
do a quick model of the tower with the SteppIR on the top. Model it with
the elements at several different lengths (someone here can probably give
you some starting points for numbers). Since the SteppIR is non-resonant
on 160, it's mostly looking like a capacity hat, and I doubt that
millimeter precision is needed.
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