[TowerTalk] Power lines, hawks, and fire ignition (slightly off-topic)

Keith Dutson kjdutson at earthlink.net
Wed Jul 21 00:11:56 EDT 2004


Yes, thanks.  I was corrected earlier off-list.  My memory from science fair
days with a Tesla coil (mid 50's) where I learned this, is failing. :)

Keith "another OF"

-----Original Message-----
From: Crawfish [mailto:crawfish at surfmore.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:20 PM
To: keith at dutson.net; TowerTalk
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Power lines, hawks,and fire ignition (slightly
off-topic)

Depending on barometric pressure, it takes anywhere from 20 kV to 75 kV to
jump an inch.

Joe W4AAB( new member on list)
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Dutson <kjdutson at earthlink.net>
To: TowerTalk <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Power lines, hawks,and fire ignition (slightly
off-topic)


> I saw that on the news this morning and figured it must be a joke.  
> Or, maybe the political news is getting so stale that they dreamed up 
> another sensational story. :)
>
> AFAIK it takes about one million volts to jump an inch arc in air at STP.
> However, once a path is established, such as ionized air, the required 
> potential drops drastically.  Perhaps the bird hit one line and left a
trail
> of blood in the air to a second line whereby the arc could form.
>
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill VanAlstyne
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:54 AM
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> Subject: [TowerTalk] Power lines, hawks,and fire ignition (slightly
> off-topic)
>
> I couldn't help but wonder at this snippet from an AP newswire article 
> in this morning's paper regarding how the Santa Clarita wildfire in
California
> supposedly started: "[The wildfire] was ignited when a red-tailed hawk
flew
> into a power line, was electrocuted and fell, burning, into brush."
>
> I know some of you guys on this list are extremely knowledgeable about 
> the basic physics of electromagnetism. Could somebody please explain 
> how a single high-tension AC wire can ignite a hawk? (Yuck.) Where 
> does the current flow -- I mean, between what and what?
>
> Bill / W5WVO
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