>"(I know there will be some comments about copper balls. I'm not talking about Joe Friday.)"< Wrong metal. Those would be brass. -- R. Kevin Stover, NØRKX Systems/Networking Iowa Quality Beef LLC 3337 L. Ave. Tama, IA 52339 e-mail: kstover at iowaqualitybeef.com, rkstover at mchsi.com