[TowerTalk] Heath Cantenna
Jim Lux
jimlux at earthlink.net
Mon Jun 7 14:00:30 EDT 2004
Mineral oil and Transformer Oil (i.e. Diala AX) ARE the same thing... The
MSDS for Diala AX says that it is mineral oil (more precisely: highly
refined petroleum oils).
Maybe it's a viscosity thing... Mineral oil from the drugstore comes in
several viscosities. Diala is pretty non-viscous and runny (not as thin as
water... about like room temperature cooking oil)
The other differences are subtle chemical things. USP mineral oil has a
limit on PolyAromatic Hydrocarbons (PAHs) which are potentially
carcinogenic (if you immerse yourself in the stuff for long periods of
time, there's an increased incidence of testicular cancer... in the context
of oil mist/spray from machining operations), while transformer oil doesn't
claim to be particularly free of it.
Diala is also slightly yellowish (straw colored), while USP mineral oil has
to be "water white". However, that's not due to particulate contamination
(i.e. soot) which would kill the dielectric properties, but due to less
refining of the oil, so there are some colored compounds in there (probably
things with benzene rings...PAH's among others).
$25/gallon for the real thing is quite high... Unless it included shipping
and tax, considering you can buy 5 gallons for under $30. Somehow, I doubt
MFJ is going to certify the water/contaminant content, as delivered, too.
http://www.shell-lubricants.com/products/product_list.php?subcatid=26
Here's the Diala A and AX data sheet:
http://www.shell-lubricants.com/products/pdf/DialaA&AX.pdf
There's also a Diala M
http://www.shell-lubricants.com/products/pdf/DIALA%20OIL%20M.PDF
and HFX, which is fire resistant
http://www.shell-lubricants.com/products/pdf/DIALA%20OIL%20HFX.PDF
At 09:07 AM 6/7/2004 -0700, Michael Tope wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Lux" <jimlux at earthlink.net>
>
> >
> >
> > Thermal properties are basically the same as USP mineral oil (drugstore
> > oil). The big differences:
> >
>
>Jim are you sure about that? The reason I ask is that both
>the Heath and the MFJ Cantenna style dummy loads specify
>duty cycle curves for mineral oil and "transformer oil". For
>1KW, the duty cycle for mineral oil goes to zero, whereas they
>specify 10 minutes (I assume this is from a room temperature
>oil baseline) for transformer oil. Either Heath and MFJ cooked
>the numbers to sell more transformer oil (MFJ sells it for
>$25/gallon), or "transformer oil" is actually better at pulling heat
>away from the Carborundum resistor.
>
>In any case, if this is wrong, I would like to know. Getting
>mineral oil in small quantities is a lot easier and cheaper than
>trying to find real transformer oil.
>
>73 de Mike, W4EF...............................................
>
>
>
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