[TowerTalk] 80 4-square inside a 160 4-square? Pros andConsplease!

Jim Lux jimlux at earthlink.net
Sun Jun 13 22:51:30 EDT 2004


Actually, this is probably the best way to solve the dual band 4 square
expressed yet..

You don't get quite the performance from 1/8 spacing that you would from
1/4, but, on low bands, anyway, the loss in "capture area" is probably not a
big deal, since atmospheric noise dominates over receiver noise.

Could one perhaps use trapped verticals?

The 80m elements would be close to each other, and mutual Z would make
designing the feed network a bit trickier (you couldn't use a 90 degree
hybrid for instance)... bandwidth might also be narrow, but, if you made the
elements "cage like" that might help, although the drive networks would also
potentially be narrow band.

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 80 4-square inside a 160 4-square? Pros
andConsplease!


> At the risk of making a foolish suggestion, why couldn't you build
> a 4-square made up of conical monopoles, wherein each antenna would
> cover both 160 and 80?  The antennas would be spaced 1/4-wavelength
> on 80 and 1/8-wavelength on 160.  Then switch in/out separate phasing
> lines for the 2 bands.
>
> 73 and awaiting replies from the educated,
>
> Arliss  W7XU
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