[TowerTalk] I have a really stupid question (baluns and
ununs)
Jim Lux
jimlux at earthlink.net
Fri Nov 12 14:40:33 EST 2004
At 12:44 PM 11/12/2004 -0600, Keith Dutson wrote:
>What method other than coax is there to connect an unbalanced signal? Does
>this answer the question?
>
>Keith NM5G
There are lots of transmission line configurations that are unbalanced. A
single wire above ground might be one. Another might be a microstripline
on a PC board. A notionally balanced twinlead might be unbalanced if
installed too close to something else.
One might want to distinguish between (un)balanced transmission lines and
(un)balanced signals.
What we usually mean is whether the (assumed) impedance to "ground" is the
same for a balanced signal/line. In the case of coax, the shielding effect
of the outer shield means that the impedance of the center conductor to the
outside cannot be the same as the impedance of the outer conductor to
ground: ecause the center connector cannot "see" the outside world, it's
impedance to ground is undefined (or maybe, infinite... I have to think
about it)).
As far as the commercially available devices go.. You just pick a connector
and go with it. At HF frequencies, the connector impedance bump problem is
pretty small, because the connector is physically small (in wavelength
terms), and the dimensions and dielectrics aren't "too different" from what
ever you're hooking it to. Imagine, if you will, a coaxial connector with
very closely spaced inner and outer conductors insulated by alumina
(dielectric constant=10)... it might look like a lumped capacitor across
the line. With a UHF connector, at least you're using a standard piece of
hardware that is inexpensive and everybody has. Bear in mind that you might
want the outside of the UHF connector isolated from "ground" (as at the
feedpoint of a dipole). Dual Banana jacks or lugs have mechanical problems
(particularly through many mate/demate cycles). Twinax connectors are a
bit exotic and expensive, and I don't know that they'd handle much power.
Oddly, you could probably use a conventional 110VAC dual prong plug with
RF. Good clamping forces, they're available in a locking configuration,
etc. Here, though, there's a huge safety hazard. It's just a bad idea to
use anything that looks like a power connector for anything other than the
signal it's designed for.
Anderson Powerpole connectors might be another good possibility. Low
contact resistance, easy mate/demate, self wiping contacts. However, they
have the same problem with accidental intermating of incompatible signals.
As far as low impedances go... a lot of Yagi designs have very low
feedpoint resistances (because of the high mutual coupling). You can
either do the transformation with a matching network on the antenna (i.e. a
gamma match, or delta match, or....), which is really like using a lumped
LC network, and might(!) be narrow band. Or, you can use a transformer
(which will tend to be broader band).
Physically short radiators will also have low feedpoint impedances. A good
example would be a coil loaded vertical against a good ground plane. The
radiation resistance is low, the losses are low, the coil has been trimmed
to compensate for the reactive part of the feedpoint impedance, but the
resistive part is quite small. Again, you have a choice between using some
LC network (lots of those in the ARRL handbook in connection with mobile
whips) or a broadband transformer. Screwdriver antennas use the transfomer
approach because it IS broadband.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>[mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rob Atkinson, K5UJ
>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:40 AM
>To: towertalk at contesting.com
>Subject: [TowerTalk] I have a really stupid question (baluns and ununs)
>
>Okay, I have what must be a stupid question. I say that because I have
>looked for an answer and have been unable to find one, so the answer must be
>so obvious that I'm not seeing it and everyone else knows it. Well, since I
>have embarrassed myself before and surely will again and therefore don't
>care about my reputation since I never had one anyway, I am going to ask
>this question:
>
>We commonly use ununs to transform one feed impedence to another, or
>transform an unbalanced feed impedence to the feedpoint Z of an unbalanced
>antenna. The commercially available ununs have UHF females on each side of
>them, which makes sense in the case of the 1:1 ununs and the ones that are
>designed to transform 50 to 75 ohms which are common unbal. feed impedences.
>
>I see a few ununs on the market that seem to be intended to work with very
>low unbalanced impedences such as 5, 10 or 20 ohms, and they too all have
>UHF females. This does not make sense to me since as far as I know, there
>are no 5, 10 or 20 ohm coax feed products out there that are commonly
>available. unless someone is working with some sort of complex arrangement
>of 50 ohm feeds in parallel, these ununs are usually placed at the
>feedpoints, as in for example a vertical that has a f.p. Z of 10 or 15 ohms,
>
>right? I'd appreciate it if someone would explain to me why a 50 to 20 ohm
>
>unun has a UHF female on the 20 ohm side, since I don't know of any 20 ohm
>coax, instead of a pair of lugs. If at the feedpoint, do you simply defeat
>the purpose of the UHF connector by clamping the counterpoise to the threads
>and stick a short jumper to the vertical in the center? There's something
>wrong with this picture I'm missing.
>
>tnx
>rob/K5UJ
>
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