[TowerTalk] Mounting a 4x4 in concrete

[Keith Dutson]

My barn is built on 4X6 20-foot Wolmanized pine posts set in concrete to a
depth of 4 feet.  It was erected in 1977.  There is no evidence of rot.

Keith NM5G

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[mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tim Makins, EI8IC
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mounting a 4x4 in concrete

I think setting timber in concrete is a bad idea. Water can get in around
the timber and cause rot. Why not set a length of steel I-beam or similar
into the concrete, and bolt the timber to that ?

73s Tim EI8IC
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Cohn/WB0TUA" <vibroplex at mindspring.com>
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 5:45 AM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Mounting a 4x4 in concrete


Dear All,

I'm trying to elevate my very low dipole that is fed with balanced line.
I'm trying to go with a non-metallic support so the balanced line does not
interact.  My dipole is currently 18' in the air.

I recently purchased a 22' fiberglass mast from The Mast Co.  This is their
heavy duty windsock pole.  I'm planning on mounting it to a 20' redwood 4x4
with the Kwik-Block mounting blocks they also sold me.  I plan to set the 4
x4 in concrete.

I checked around and one of the local deck builders says I need to put about
4' of the redwood 4x4 into the concrete.  That would reduce my effective
height of the 4x4 to 16'.  If I overlap the fiberglass mast a foot or two, I
have 16' + 20' = 36' which is roughly double the height I have now.

What do you guys think about the 4' of 4x4 into the ground.  Too much, too
little, just right?  I noticed that you can put l-bolts into the concrete
footer and mount a u-shaped bracket on top of the footer that will accept
the 4x4.  This is advertised for deck applications and I think it wouldn't
support 20 feet of 4x4.  However, it would give me four more feet of height
if it could be made to work.  Has anyone tried this?

73,

Derek Cohn
Morse Telegraph Club - Alton Chapter
Telegraph Office UD, sine DJ
Amateur Radio Station - WB0TUA
1969 M274A5 Mechanical Mule
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