[TowerTalk] Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 25, Issue 20

[Dick]

Tnx Don, appreciate your input...that is the direction I am heading...wll 
look on the net and see if I can locate some1 inch fiberglass or epoxy 
rod...Dick
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>   1. Re: Rotating Dipole (Don Havlicek)
>   2. RE: FW: Lightning suppression for yachts (Keith Dutson)
>   3. RE: Rotating Dipole (daniel  hearn)
>   4. Subject: [TowerTalk] Rotating Dipole (Roland J. Guidry)
>   5. yv5mbx - Thanks!!! (Javier Remoto)
>   6. Re: Ice Storm Damage (larryj at teleport.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:06:44 -0500
> From: Don Havlicek <n8de at thepoint.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rotating Dipole
> To: Dick <dmcnutt at cox.net>
> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
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> Dick
> How about using some solid fiberglass rod for the coil forms?  You
> should be able to find it in diameters from 1/2" up to almost 2" if you
> search hard and long.
> I'd use center-loading as opposed to linear-loading .. you can
> 'link-couple' to the driven element, eliminating some feedpoint problems.
> Don
> N8DE
>
> Dick wrote:
>> I am in the process of putting up a full size rotating dipole for 40 
>> meters..
>> I plan to later shorten it to a loaded 40 foot dipole...the ultimate goal 
>> is
>> to contruct a 2 element beam on 40...I need a source of loading coil core
>> forms that are about one inch diameter.  Also trying to decide if loading
>> the elements  or center loading the driven element woud be more 
>> efficient..
>> any ideas...Dick W4NTG
>> _______________________________________________
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>> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless 
>> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with 
>> any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:12:17 -0600
> From: "Keith Dutson" <kjdutson at earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] FW: Lightning suppression for yachts
> To: "'S/Y ALEXIA'" <alexia at alexia.mr.com.ar>
> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
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> John,
>
> The pdf is available at:
>
> http://www.dutson.net/transfer/HamRadio/
>
> Keith NM5G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: S/Y ALEXIA [mailto:alexia at alexia.mr.com.ar]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 2:17 AM
> To: keith at dutson.net
> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] FW: Lightning suppression for yachts
>
> Hi Keith,
>           Attached is the photo of the top of the mast. The 1.90mm 
> Americas
> cup carbon fibre aerial is shown in photo as the red line and gives you a
> ruff idea of its shape and height. It carries electrical wires in side it 
> to
> transmit wind data to our instruments.
> This is where the hits have been occurring.
>
> Any information you can offer me, will be much appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> John Bennett
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Dutson [mailto:kjdutson at earthlink.net]
> Sent: 05 January 2005 23:09
> To: 'S/Y ALEXIA'
> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] FW: Lightning suppression for yachts
>
> John,
>
> This list does not allow attachments.  If you cannot post on a web site,
> send the photo to me and I will put it up on my web site.
>
> Keith NM5G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of S/Y ALEXIA
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:02 PM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] FW: Lightning suppression for yachts
>
>
>
> To Whom It May Concern:
>
> My name is John Bennett and I Captain a 100ft sailing yacht, which has a 
> 45m
> carbon fibre mast. We have LPS-Standard lightning prevention devices, ie.
> Static dissipaters, but we have been hit twice by what we think was a 
> static
> charge. Those dissipaters are grounded through our keel bolts. In the 
> photo
> attached, you can see the 2 brushes covered with plastic and the multi
> purpose aerial being the highest point in the photo. When we race, we also
> have carbon wind instruments that are 1.90m above the top of the mast and
> both times this has been hit. It has electrical wires inside the tubular
> structure and the lightning charge travelled down that, damaging a lot of
> equipment connected to it.
> I know if we go through another storm we will get hit again so I am trying
> to reduce our chances.
>
> If you have any ideas about our problem and any possible solutions, I will
> be extremely grateful as having to replace everything twice was bad enough
> but a third time will be very testing.
>
> Kind regards
>
> John Bennett
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 07:21:39 -0800
> From: "daniel  hearn" <dhearn at ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Rotating Dipole
> To: "Dick" <dmcnutt at cox.net>, <towertalk at contesting.com>
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> Check this out for a skillfully designed shortened element beam for 40/80.
> http://www.qsl.net/ve6wz/intro.htmoriginal
>
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> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dick
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:49 AM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Rotating Dipole
>
>
> I am in the process of putting up a full size rotating dipole for 40
> meters..
> I plan to later shorten it to a loaded 40 foot dipole...the ultimate goal 
> is
> to contruct a 2 element beam on 40...I need a source of loading coil core
> forms that are about one inch diameter.  Also trying to decide if loading
> the elements  or center loading the driven element woud be more 
> efficient..
> any ideas...Dick W4NTG
> _______________________________________________
>
> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with 
> any
> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:25:11 -0600
> From: "Roland J. Guidry" <rguidry at na5q.us>
> Subject: Subject: [TowerTalk] Rotating Dipole
> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
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> Dick, rather than mess with coils just make dipole or 2 el beam with
> fiberglass poles and string some wire inside of it for 40 meters, than let
> the excess wire hang down. Most of your current is in the middle and 
> having
> bent ends will not diminish your efficiency very much. Kind of like a 
> Moxon,
> but with the wires hanging down.
>
> Check out http://www.moxonantennaproject.com/design.htm for dimensions and
> you can just let the extra wire hang or tie it together.
>
> Roland, NA5Q
>
>
> At 08:49 AM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>>I am in the process of putting up a full size rotating dipole for 40
> meters..
>>I plan to later shorten it to a loaded 40 foot dipole...the ultimate
>>goal is to contruct a 2 element beam on 40...I need a source of loading
>>coil core forms that are about one inch diameter.  Also trying to
>>decide if loading the elements  or center loading the driven element woud
> be more efficient..
>>any ideas...Dick W4NTG
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:29:41 -0400
> From: "Javier Remoto" <jlopez at plasticosomega.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] yv5mbx - Thanks!!!
> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
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> Hi,
>
> I want to appreciatte the impressive ammount of notes that were received 
> through this magnificent list.
>
> Thank you very much to all of you for the time spended reading and 
> answering my question.
>
> I hope in a near future to be able to help you too.
>
> 73's de Javier
> yv5mbx
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:32:18 -0500
> From: "larryj at teleport.com" <larryj at teleport.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ice Storm Damage
> To: TowerTalk at contesting.com
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> I wrote to my family down in Florida to warn them about this Tower Hill
> Insurance Co. (they have it), and the Company. Here's the "Response" I
> received from Tower Hill. Sounds like a CYA canned response:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Dear Sir,
>
> Please understand that since I cannot comment on other customer's 
> insurance
> policies due to the Privacy Act Notice, I cannot reply to your email.
> However, I am sorry to hear that you feel this way.
>
> Thank you, Lisa Smith
> Customer Service Team Leader
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> LJ
>
>
>
> Original Message:
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> From: Randy randy at gte.net
> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:37:54 -0500
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ice Storm Damage
>
>
> Chuck Lewis wrote:
>
>> My agent will tell me whether it's
>>in my best interest to submit or not. Yours might, too. I don't see a
>>downside in asking -- you can always just decline to submit if it looks
> like
>>it will cause your rates to go up. Or if he acts cagey you just might have
>>to roll the dice.
>>
>>73, Chuck, N4NM
>>
>>
> Just "hearsay", but I had a customer (nothing at all to do with towers,
> etc.) who called her insurance company regarding a claim, didn't like
> the answers she got off-hand and demanded to get higher up the
> food-chain for answers, and was told that doing so *would* be a black
> mark against her... of course, that's here in FL, where insurance
> companies are used to flogging us. They'll cancel you at the drop of a
> hat here. They summarily cancelled my policy on the Monday the 16th
> following our recent Friday the 13th hurricane, on a house I'd owned
> only a few months, with the policy paid-in-full for a year, and no
> claims. The Insurance Commisioner spanked 'em for that, but it gives you
> an idea of how it sometimes goes here.
> FWIW that was Tower Hill Insurance.
>
> Randy
> KZ4RV
> ex-N4MBL
> ..
>
> -- 
>
>
>
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