[TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground'

Frank Donovan donovanf at erols.com
Mon Jan 17 07:39:42 EST 2005


Keith,

If you work as a professional in the industry, or if
you're interested in spending several hundred dollars,
purchase the EIA/TIA and IEEE grounding and bonding
standards that provide exactly the engineering foundation
 information you are seeking.  If you want to spend the
money, let it be known on the reflector and I'm sure
you will get the specifics.

Otherwise, I suggest you visit a commercial cell site, a
radio transmitter site, or a large computer facility in your
area.

Let us know how many braid straps you find.  If you
find any, let us know how long they are.

73!
Frank
W3LPL
donovanf at erols.com



----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Dutson <kjdutson at earthlink.net>
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 3:59 PM
Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground'


> >Its been well proven that braided strap has far too much inductance to be
> of any utility above 2 MHz.
>
> OK.  So where is the proof?
>
> I am thinking any writing you can find is based on the use of braid that
of
> poor manufacture or has corroded, or both.  Poor or corroded braid can act
> like many very small wires to create substantial impedance.  However, well
> constructed braid acts more like a solid bar of metal, but with the
> flexibility required for many installations.
>
> Keith NM5G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Frank Donovan
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:35 AM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] There's 'ground', and then there's 'ground'
>
> Here's a clarification, pointed out by an attentive towertalkian:
>
> My previous e-mail was not intended to refer to cables that use a braided
> shield under a jacket.  A tight jacket compresses the braid and it's a
very
> effective RF conductor, provided that the braid is not corroded.
>
> Rather, my comment was intended to apply to to the inappropriate use of
> braided strap for RF grounding or lightning protection.  Its been well
> proven that braided strap has far too much inductance to be of any utility
> above 2 MHz.
>
> So...   Lets try again:
>
> Discard all forms of "braided" strap.
> Braid is something a girl does to her hair.
> Braided strap is a poor RF conductor and it's a terrible conductor of
> lightning energy.
>
> Use braided strap only for DC and audio applications, its just an inductor
> for RF or lightning protection applications.
>
> Here's an excellent reference from the many industry sources on this
topic:
> http://members.cox.net/pc-usa/station/ground5.htm
>
> 73!
> Frank
> W3LPL
> donovanf at erols.com
>
>
>
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