[TowerTalk] NVIS

[Bill Axelrod]

This is a very interesting thread.  The technical discussion regarding what 
constitutes a NVIS antenna, what makes it efficient, how to best deploy and 
employ a NVIS antenna, etc. is wonderful and helps all of us who have an 
interest in towers and antennas.

But, I must take exception to the remainder of this email.  And, while I 
don't like to get into these discussions, I must in this case.

There are many of us with tall towers, stacked beams, etc.  But, I suggest 
that there are many more of us with dipoles at 35' or with towers only 70' 
tall, for a variety of reasons too diverse to catalog here.  We, too, are 
hams.  We, too, chase DX.  And you would be surprised just how well we can 
hear DX.  I am not the only little pistol chasing DX with a wire antenna at 
35'.  And I am not the only little pistol who has achieved DXCC on all the 8 
bands 80 through 10 meters in a relatively short period of time.

So, to assert that 'Guys with dipoles at 35' can barely hear DX' or that 
'guys with arrays at 70'  are only
barely competitive' is simply off the mark and dismisses out of hand many of 
us to subscribe to this reflector.

Sure, we little pistols can't hear the DX as well as the hams who are big 
guns.  And, sure, some of us, a minority I might add, are guilty as charged. 
But, it is equally off the mark is to assert that these are the only guys 
who call and call and call.  I've been a ham 49 years so far, and I hear a 
fair share of big guns do this very same thing.

I suggest we keep this discussion to the technical issues.  Even we little 
pistols benefit from that.  And then more of our community benefits.  We 
should want that - we should be inclusive, not exclusive.

Guess you touched a nerve.  ...-.-

73...   Bill K3WA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Jarvis" <jimjarvis at comcast.net>
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:46 PM
Subject: [TowerTalk] NVIS


>
> Interesting thread.
>
> But a dipole @ 35' IS an NVIS antenna on 40.
> Well, not quite.
> If you want it to be a better NVIS, snuggle a
> reflector below it.
>
> Personal hot button:  Guys with dipoles at 35'
> who can barely hear DX, or get packet spots indicating
> frequency, and call and call and call.  Alligators.
>
> Meanwhile, the guys with arrays at 70', who are only
> barely competitive, can't hear through the idiots repeatedly
> calling.
>
> As for the pragmatic approach...whatever works, can be easily
> deployed, and gets the job done....I'm in agreement.  Even if it's
> 18 inches off the deck.  Probably wouldn't vote for small E-M loops,
> though.
>
> n2ea
> jimjarvis at ieee.org
>
>