> Isn't the Effel Tower porkcupine a close relative of the antenna owl? Yeah, except you don't have to align it with true north for it to not work. David Robbins K1TTT e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net web: http://www.k1ttt.net AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net