At 04:16 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: >In John's younger days, he simply grabbed the ground rod with one hand and >yanked it out. > >73, >Ed - W0YK Actually I'd just grab them with my TEETH and stand UP! I could pull out an 8 ft ground rod in less than 10 seconds! 10 footers took two BITES. --John W0UN