[TowerTalk] fiberglass guys...

[StellarCAT]

I knew someone would have to be offended.... my apologies as an offense was not intended. Funny that you felt "comfortable" with
 Bill's statement about "cheaping out" when it was directed at those installing EHS! 

My point - again - is that MECHANICALLY - steel is superior to Philly. I cannot and did not comment about poly as I do not know 
anything about its stretch. The FACT is that philly DOES stretch much more than steel. As simple as that. So I, emphasis on I, I 
decided to take this variable to the maximum safety factor and to compromise on the other factors. Obviously you and others 
compromised in a different manner and that is perfectly fine - your decision - only do not (as Bill did) lessen our decision if we 
decide to go with Steel with insulators. It is not simply $'s that this decision is made on. 

Based on your description (but not knowing what poly does) I would have probably considered elsewise... but I am not going with
 verticals and the like. 


[PS: the guys/insulators are using preforms so no "maintenance" as you suggest is needed - at least not that I am aware of.]

Again - my apologies.

g.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phil Camera 
  To: StellarCAT 
  Cc: towertalk at contesting.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] fiberglass guys...


   in my opinion it is "cheaping out" that has people going to non-steel. It is the desire to save TIME 
  on cutting and installing insulators on the EHS steel cable and instead going to 
  inferior guying (inferior due to stretch and ease of cutting) to save this time. 


  I'm sorry but excuse me.  Installing insulators on EHS is more troublesome and do all you with those peridically inspect the clamps on either side of the insulator?   To do this you'd have to drop the guy and physically inspect and/or retighten these clamps every so many years or so.

  My Fiberglass Polygon guys cost much more than EHS but also less than Phillystran and work just fine.  I installed 15 ft of EHS at the bottoms for physical protection and my dog will make sure no one starts climbing the tower with a hacksaw.

  Personally, my guyed tower is right next to my four square and one set of guys actually traverses through a corner of the four square area.  I wasn't about to install any kind of metal, regardless of length and resonance, in the four square.  And, I have no clamps as I used Preformed Products grips.  My installation is top notch and no money was spared to do it the right way (everything designed to meet or exceed the Rohn specs for 130 mph design, 120 ft Rohn 45) and it's got fiberglass guys.  Definitely not cheap charlied.  Bad statement to make sir.   Phil  KB9CRY