[TowerTalk] Fw: Digging a tower foundation hole

RICHARD BOYD ke3q at msn.com
Fri Sep 23 14:52:42 EDT 2005


FYI, when we were installing the first towers at A61AJ some years back, he pointed us out to his friends and said, "I have some Americans putting up my towers."  

Clearly, referring to any individual or any group of people by their country, citizenship, country of origin, etc. could be either an insult or a compliment, depending on how it was intended and taken.  

When I'm in Puerto Rico I have often referred to myself, jokingly as a "gringo" or "just a gringo," and it never gets a laugh for some cultural reason I don't understand, so I am discontinuing saying it.

73 - Rich, KE3Q
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Coogan<mailto:mikegc at pacifier.com> 
  To: Tower Talk List<mailto:towertalk at contesting.com> 
  Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 2:21 PM
  Subject: [TowerTalk] Fw: Digging a tower foundation hole



  No apology needed for me!  The sad part of this whole thread is any 
  comparison of a Mexican laborer to an "American" is a insult to the 
  Mexican. The Mexican will work circles around our good "citizens"!!

  Mike Coogan, W7MGC
  Vancouver, Washington


  > Bob Gates wrote:
  >> TTers,
  >>
  >> I happen to totally agree with Hector.  The "day laborers" Steve 
  >> referred to are hard working
  > > men trying desperately to support their families.  Politics aside, I
  > feel that the terminology
  > > was beyond politically incorrect, and I feel that an apology is in
  > order.  No "Cheers" in that message.
  >>
  >> 73, Bob W7BJ
  >
  > Did I miss something in the thread?
  >
  >   Steve referred to the laborers as "Mexicans". Are they not Mexicans?
  > I don't think you have to apologize for referring to a Mexican as such
  > nor implying that they are a source of cheap labor. As Hector pointed
  > out, some are and some are not. Just like Americans. Some work for 
  > less
  > money than others yet I am not offended when that is pointed out to 
  > me.
  > Other countries refer to us as fat and lazy. I am not offended by that
  > either since I know some are and some are not. I refuse to give 
  > someone
  > else that kind of power over me or my thoughts and emotions. Life is 
  > too
  > short to take offense at what others say.
  >
  > Patrick
  >
  >
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