I didn't read all the post like I should have. I have had 40 feet of Rohn 20 up with minimal guying years ago, but would not use it at all now.Lucked up and found a nice 48 foot Rohn 45 foldover. As soon as I get the paperwork(and get this fractured foot healed), I want to put it up.Thanks, Bill, for pointing that out!! Joe W4AAB