We tried the same antenna (full size inverted vee, top at 60 feet, ends at 20 feet) on our 20 acres. It was 20 dB down from the 90 foot vertical. Rick N6RK > Apex is at 70 feet, ends about 20 feet, and it is full size - no > traps or loading coils. > > The blessings of a 2.5 acre homestead. :-) > > Bill, W6WRT >