[TowerTalk] LMR-600 cable bends in conduit

[Bob Maser]

Why not use a run of LMR900 like I did.  Most LMR900 is DB which stands for 
Direct Bury coax.  Or you can find some Andrews 7/8" which is also DB. 
Control lines are another issue and shouldn't be run together with coax 
anyway(IMHO).

Bob  W6TR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "K8RI on TowerTalk" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LMR-600 cable bends in conduit


>
>
>
>> Do you see any problem with 2" conduit using wide 90's (total: 2)?
>>
>
> Sweep 90's should work. Standard 90's are pushing the minimum radius bends
> and I'd think would be a bear to pull through. I'm going through three 
> 45's
> and one sweep 90 although I don't have all the runs in yet. There will be
> three LMR 600, one small heliax (which may or may not work which might 
> have
> to be replaced with LMR-600) two LMR 400's (one to the remote switch, and
> one to the tri-bander), rotator cable, control cable to remote switch, and
> three RG-6.
>
> I'm afraid I'm going to need to replace the junction box on the side of 
> the
> house with a larger one.  This is a Hoffman box (NEMA-4) with an aluminum
> backing plate for grounding and mounting the polyphasers.
>
> Roger Halstead (K8RI and ARRL 40 year Life Member)
> N833R - World's oldest Debonair CD-2
> www.rogerhalstead.com
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>
>
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>> From: C Dwight Baker [mailto:cdwightbaker at bellsouth.net]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 10:02 PM
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 95
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>> I forgot to answer one part of your question with respect to the ability
>> to
>> bend the LMR 600.  Yes, you can bend the cable in the 4 inch PVC 45
>> degrees
>> with no problem.  I ran two runs of the 600 cable through the same 3 inch
>> PVC and made three 90 degree turns with no problems.
>>
>> Dwight  W4IJY  Vero Beach, FL
>>
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>>   1. Re: HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED... (Gedas)
>>   2. Re: HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED... (Mike Fatchett)
>>   3. Re: HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED... (Bob Nielsen)
>>   4. Grounding the rotor cable (Cqtestk4xs at aol.com)
>>   5. Needed: Andrews LDF4-50A Coax (Dr M J DiGirolamo)
>>   6. LMR600 (Jim McDonald)
>>   7. Re: Grounding the rotor cable (K8RI on TowerTalk)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:39:12 -0500
>> From: "Gedas" <w8bya at mchsi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>> To: "'TowerTalk'" <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <038301c711bc$761dd960$0401a8c0 at Gedas>
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>> Mike, any idea on how your R8 performs vs. another vertical, say a ground
>> mounted type with radials?  I think that would be very interesting.
>>
>> Gedas
>> Image Gallery http://gedas.cc
>> Web Site        http://w8bya.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Mike Fatchett
>> To: 'TowerTalk'
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>>
>>
>> I have a couple of R8 Verticals that are elevated and they work pretty
>> well.
>> The do not require any radials.  Most other verticals will require
>> radials.
>> Even the BigIR requires radials.
>>
>> Mike W0MU
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of D. Scott MacKenzie
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:16 PM
>> To: Peter Voelpel; towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>>
>> Actually - the report that K7LXC did, is a good, well written report, 
>> with
>> good experimental data to back up the claims.  It certainly helped me 
>> make
>> an informed decision based on DATA as opposed to opinions.....
>>
>> Opinions are like a A...holes - everyone has them.  But data is worth the
>> price.....
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Peter Voelpel
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:11 PM
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>>
>>
>> I wonder whether you like to give helpful advise or make profit...
>>
>> 73
>> Peter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of K7LXC at aol.com
>>
>> In a message dated 11/26/2006 11:30:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> towertalk-request at contesting.com writes:
>>
>>>  I am going to be relocating to a new QTH and was looking at  getting
>>> a  new
>> multiband vertical.  I would like to have  something that would be for
>> 40 -
>> 15 meters.   I know there are  lots of options out there, but just not
>> sure
>> which ones are really worth  the money.  I have been steering more
>> thowards
>> the Hy-Gain.  Any  help or opinions would greatly be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>        While we didn't test the  SteppIR, there are a bunch of other
>> verticals that we tested in our vertical  antenna comparison report
>> available at _www.championradio.com/publications.html_
>> (http://www.championradio.com/publications.html) .
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:47:29 -0700
>> From: "Mike Fatchett" <mike at mallardcove.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>> To: "'Gedas'" <w8bya at mchsi.com>, "'TowerTalk'"
>> <towertalk at contesting.com>
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>> I don't have any other verticals to compare it to.  I don't know if the
>> publication K7LXC was citing includes the R8.  I worked plenty of DX with
>> it
>> this weekend but I don't have anything to comapare it to.  I am surprised
>> by
>> what I can work at times though.
>>
>> Mike W0MU
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gedas
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:39 PM
>> To: 'TowerTalk'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>>
>> Mike, any idea on how your R8 performs vs. another vertical, say a ground
>> mounted type with radials?  I think that would be very interesting.
>>
>> Gedas
>> Image Gallery http://gedas.cc
>> Web Site        http://w8bya.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mike Fatchett
>> To: 'TowerTalk'
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>>
>>
>> I have a couple of R8 Verticals that are elevated and they work pretty
>> well.
>> The do not require any radials.  Most other verticals will require
>> radials.
>> Even the BigIR requires radials.
>>
>> Mike W0MU
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of D. Scott MacKenzie
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:16 PM
>> To: Peter Voelpel; towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>>
>> Actually - the report that K7LXC did, is a good, well written report, 
>> with
>> good experimental data to back up the claims.  It certainly helped me 
>> make
>> an informed decision based on DATA as opposed to opinions.....
>>
>> Opinions are like a A...holes - everyone has them.  But data is worth the
>> price.....
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Peter Voelpel
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:11 PM
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>>
>>
>> I wonder whether you like to give helpful advise or make profit...
>>
>> 73
>> Peter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of K7LXC at aol.com
>>
>> In a message dated 11/26/2006 11:30:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> towertalk-request at contesting.com writes:
>>
>>>  I am going to be relocating to a new QTH and was looking at  getting
>>> a  new
>> multiband vertical.  I would like to have  something that would be for
>> 40 -
>> 15 meters.   I know there are  lots of options out there, but just not
>> sure
>> which ones are really worth  the money.  I have been steering more
>> thowards
>> the Hy-Gain.  Any  help or opinions would greatly be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>        While we didn't test the  SteppIR, there are a bunch of other
>> verticals that we tested in our vertical  antenna comparison report
>> available at _www.championradio.com/publications.html_
>> (http://www.championradio.com/publications.html) .
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:03:09 -0800
>> From: Bob Nielsen <nielsen at oz.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>> To: TowerTalk List <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <DCE3C525-ECCB-49C9-80A4-A16ED9A86D91 at oz.net>
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>> Yes, it does include the R8, but it wasn't elevated much and there
>> was a ground screen.  Based on the results quoted, I was seriously
>> looking at the R8, but the AV-640 is nearly identical except for not
>> using traps and I went with that.
>>
>> Steve and Ward's yagi report is also excellent.  I worked on antenna
>> ranges for many years in the aerospace industry and couldn't find
>> anything to fault in their test methods.
>>
>> Bob, N7XY
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2006, at 4:47 PM, Mike Fatchett wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have any other verticals to compare it to.  I don't know if
>>> the
>>> publication K7LXC was citing includes the R8.  I worked plenty of
>>> DX with it
>>> this weekend but I don't have anything to comapare it to.  I am
>>> surprised by
>>> what I can work at times though.
>>>
>>> Mike W0MU
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gedas
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:39 PM
>>> To: 'TowerTalk'
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>>>
>>> Mike, any idea on how your R8 performs vs. another vertical, say a
>>> ground
>>> mounted type with radials?  I think that would be very interesting.
>>>
>>> Gedas
>>> Image Gallery http://gedas.cc
>>> Web Site        http://w8bya.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Mike Fatchett
>>> To: 'TowerTalk'
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a couple of R8 Verticals that are elevated and they work
>>> pretty well.
>>> The do not require any radials.  Most other verticals will require
>>> radials.
>>> Even the BigIR requires radials.
>>>
>>> Mike W0MU
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of D. Scott
>>> MacKenzie
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:16 PM
>>> To: Peter Voelpel; towertalk at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>>>
>>> Actually - the report that K7LXC did, is a good, well written
>>> report, with
>>> good experimental data to back up the claims.  It certainly helped
>>> me make
>>> an informed decision based on DATA as opposed to opinions.....
>>>
>>> Opinions are like a A...holes - everyone has them.  But data is
>>> worth the
>>> price.....
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Peter Voelpel
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:11 PM
>>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF Vertical Opinions NEEDED...
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder whether you like to give helpful advise or make profit...
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of K7LXC at aol.com
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/26/2006 11:30:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>>> towertalk-request at contesting.com writes:
>>>
>>>>  I am going to be relocating to a new QTH and was looking at  getting
>>>> a  new
>>> multiband vertical.  I would like to have  something that would be
>>> for 40 -
>>> 15 meters.   I know there are  lots of options out there, but just
>>> not sure
>>> which ones are really worth  the money.  I have been steering more
>>> thowards
>>> the Hy-Gain.  Any  help or opinions would greatly be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>         While we didn't test the  SteppIR, there are a bunch of other
>>> verticals that we tested in our vertical  antenna comparison report
>>> available at _www.championradio.com/publications.html_
>>> (http://www.championradio.com/publications.html) .
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:39:02 EST
>> From: Cqtestk4xs at aol.com
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Grounding the rotor cable
>> To: TOWERTALK at contesting.com
>> Message-ID: <c3d.98fb020.329b9bb6 at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> At 12:47 PM 11/26/2006, Bill Turner wrote:
>>>I've read the PolyPhaser  document on protection for ham stations but
>>>it is vague on how to protect  rotator cables. First, I wonder how much
>>>protection, if any, is needed in  the first place? In my tower, the
>>>rotator is inside the tower and the  control lines run down inside the
>>>tower as well. Coming out from the  tower at the bottom, they run
>>>underground to the shack, about 70 feet  away. It seems to me that
>>>neither the rotator nor the lines
>> ``~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Interesting thoughts.  I NEVER ran any Polyphasers etc on my rotor
>> cables.
>>
>> Everything was disconnected at the bulkhead by Cinch-Jones  plugs.
>> Amazingly
>> even though I had lots of rotors on the 200 foot  towers, I never had a
>> rotor
>> failure from a lightning hit...mechanical  damage from wind etc, but no
>> electrical problems.  My gut feeling is there  are few direct hits on the
>> rotor
>> cables and most of the damage from  non-disconnected stems from the
>> induced
>> voltage of the hit and perhaps providing  a great ground for the main
>> lighting
>> charge to travel to ground through the  house mains by way of a short,
>> jumping from
>> the tower or coax to the  cable.
>>
>> Bill K4XS/KH6
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:48:36 -0500
>> From: "Dr M J DiGirolamo" <DrD at 2020.com>
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Needed: Andrews LDF4-50A Coax
>> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <00ba01c711c6$27c64310$6701a8c0 at fm55k01>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hi Gang,
>>
>>  I'm looking for two strands of Andrews LDF4-50A (1/2" hardline) of about
>> 110'
>> each.
>>
>>  Anyone have some lengths laying around, not being used?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mike DiGirolamo, W4XN
>> Charlottsville, VA 22901
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:02:15 -0600
>> From: "Jim McDonald" <jim at n7us.net>
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] LMR600
>> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <004801c711c8$17eda490$6401a8c0 at Dell8300>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Is LMR600 or the equivalent too stiff to pass through three 45-degree
>> sweeps
>> in a 4" PVC?  How about with an 89' crank-up tower?  I am trying to 
>> decide
>> whether to reuse my Davis RF Bury-Flex or replace it.  This antenna, a 4L
>> SteppIR, will have 6M on it, and I've never had to be concerned with
>> attenuation for that band before.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim N7US
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:03:49 -0500
>> From: "K8RI on TowerTalk" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Grounding the rotor cable
>> To: <TOWERTALK at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <007101c711c8$4d4d6e40$6500a8c0 at SecondOne>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> I don't disconnect anything since I finished the ground system
>> installation.
>>
>> That's mainly because the connections are too difficult to get at and the
>> storm would be past by the time I could get them disconnected.
>>
>> Since the ground system was finished I've had no damage yet the tower
>> takes
>> at least 3 direct hits on average per year. It was five the first half of
>> this past summer.  I say at least as those have been observed.
>>
>> IF I recall correctly Tom said he didn't disconnect anything either, but
>> I've only seen one post from him in recent months. I understand he's over
>> on
>>
>> the amps reflector.
>>
>> Roger Halstead (K8RI and ARRL 40 year Life Member)
>> N833R - World's oldest Debonair CD-2
>> www.rogerhalstead.com (Use return address from home page)
>>
>>
>>> At 12:47 PM 11/26/2006, Bill Turner wrote:
>>>>I've read the PolyPhaser  document on protection for ham stations but
>>>>it is vague on how to protect  rotator cables. First, I wonder how much
>>>>protection, if any, is needed in  the first place? In my tower, the
>>>>rotator is inside the tower and the  control lines run down inside the
>>>>tower as well. Coming out from the  tower at the bottom, they run
>>>>underground to the shack, about 70 feet  away. It seems to me that
>>>>neither the rotator nor the lines
>>> ``~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Interesting thoughts.  I NEVER ran any Polyphasers etc on my rotor
>>> cables.
>>> Everything was disconnected at the bulkhead by Cinch-Jones  plugs.
>>> Amazingly
>>> even though I had lots of rotors on the 200 foot  towers, I never had a
>>> rotor
>>> failure from a lightning hit...mechanical  damage from wind etc, but no
>>> electrical problems.  My gut feeling is there  are few direct hits on 
>>> the
>>> rotor
>>> cables and most of the damage from  non-disconnected stems from the
>>> induced
>>> voltage of the hit and perhaps providing  a great ground for the main
>>> lighting
>>> charge to travel to ground through the  house mains by way of a short,
>>> jumping from
>>> the tower or coax to the  cable.
>>>
>>> Bill K4XS/KH6
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> TowerTalk mailing list
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