[TowerTalk] What relay do Ameritron and Array Solutions

[jeremy-ca]

I dont care to be called an idiot and I demand an apology. Moderator please 
take note.

My comment was directed at what appeared to be the same relay as used by 
Ameritron and if it was the same then $45 is a rip off. However several 
prior posters were talking about 2 different relays and then you cleared up 
the confusion. Our posts crossed at the same time.

BTW, remind me to not waste any money on your products as you apparently 
dont know how conduct yourself in front of potential customers.

Ive worked in RF R&D most of my life so Im fully cognizant on how to design 
and test a switching system for something as basic as HF. A network analyzer 
takes most of the guesswork out of what some view as hard work.

When KQ2M operated my station 1987-95, I designed and built all of the 
elaborate stack switching and elevation steering for a 4 stack of yagis on 
20, 15 & 10 as well as the pattern switching for 160 & 80 antennas.  Specs 
were so tight that amp tuning never changed even when several relays and 
networks were in the signal path. Performance was obvious in the contest 
scores.

Carl
KM1H
160M thru 10gHz




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Terleski" <jayt at arraysolutions.com>
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 4:12 PM
Subject: [TowerTalk] What relay do Ameritron and Array Solutions


>
> ------------------------------
> ONE more time
> Look guys, LETS PUT THIS RELAY STUFF TO REST.
>
> Those relays on my website are 10KW CW high voltage relays, and they are
> $45.00 these are NOT the 5 KW CW RatPak replacement relays which we sell 
> for
> $16.00 each, if I have to sell one.  The RatPak is warranted for life,
> except for lightning damage, which rarely happens with it since it has
> protection and is in a full metal box.
>
> To the idiot that said I am ripping hams off, your wrong, you have no idea
> how much free advice I give out. Try finding a relay like this in the
> general purpose relay section of mouser.com. Then modify it to look work
> like this and still you won't have the performance!
>
> Regards, to the group
>
> Jay, WX0B
>
>
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 13:47:29 -0400
> From: "Tom McAlee" <tom at klient.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] What relay do Ameritron and Array Solutions
> useintheir coax switchs?
> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>, "Jim Lux" <jimlux at earthlink.net>
> Message-ID: <058401c79586$c738e760$6a93a8c0 at laptop>
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>> I don't think $45 is the actual each price Jay sells them for.
>
> Yes, it is.  I've bought several.  And, you can find them on his pricing /
> ordering page at $45 each in quantities of 1 to 9.
>
> http://www.arraysolutions.com/pricelist.htm - search for the text "10kw rf
> relays"
>
> 73,
> Tom, NI1N
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Lux" <jimlux at earthlink.net>
> To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; "Tom McAlee" <tom at klient.com>; 
> "W7CE"
> <w7ce at curtiss.net>; <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] What relay do Ameritron and Array Solutions
> useintheir coax switchs?
>
>
>> Comments interspersed..
>>
>> At 06:27 PM 5/12/2007, jeremy-ca wrote:
>>
>>>$45 is obviously a rip off for that relay. Since Ameritron makes a big
>>>deal
>>>about selling any individual part Id start there to get a more realistic
>>>resale price.
>>
>> I don't think $45 is the actual each price Jay sells them
>> for.  However, it could well be a realistic cost for him to put one
>> relay in a box and ship it.  Might be that 3 relays would also cost
>> $45.  The realities of "spare parts sales" has been beaten to death
>> on the forum.  It's an expensive service to provide for the seller,
>> although some mfrs do "subsidize" it (but eventually, you pay, in the
>> form of original purchase price).  Also, many mfrs only sell
>> replacement parts if you own the original product (especially those
>> that are subsidizing the cost stocking, shipping, etc. onesie-twosie
>> parts orders).
>
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