[TowerTalk] Unique Short Radial Challenge - N5OT Question

David Robbins K1TTT k1ttt at arrl.net
Sun Oct 21 14:51:13 EDT 2007


I can see how it could have.  The loop is now close to the radials that will
pickup currents essentially omni directionally and couple them directly to
the loop.  This would probably overwhelm the pattern the loop has making it
appear to have lost its directivity.  


David Robbins K1TTT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:towertalk-
> bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Chet Moore
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 14:43
> To: Mark Beckwith; towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Unique Short Radial Challenge - N5OT Question
> 
> Radials under the K9AY loop???
> 
> Possibly I did something wrong here but.............I put up the W2UP
> rotatable loop which is a single loop I turned with a rotator but
> essentially the same principle as a K9AY.........I think.
> 
> When I ran out an extra 20 radials last year from the inverted L,  6 or 7
> of
> them were laid right on the ground right under the W2UP loop and all
> directivity disappeared.   The loop is still a good LOW NOISE antenna
> compared to the inverted L but with no directivity it may not be worth my
> time to put it back up this year.
> 
> Should running the radials under the loop have  affected the  rx
> pattern???
> 
> 73
> 
> Chet N4FX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Beckwith" <n5ot at n5ot.com>
> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Unique Short Radial Challenge - N5OT Question
> 
> 
> >I have a second question about short radials: If you were to improve the
> > ground under a K9AY loop by using radials, how many and how long?  160m
> > only.  Thanks,
> >
> > Mark, N5OT
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard HIll" <rehill at ix.netcom.com>
> > To: "David Gilbert" <xdavid at cis-broadband.com>; "Eric Hilding"
> > <b38 at hilding.com>
> > Cc: <towertalk at contesting.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 5:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Unique Short Radial Challenge
> >
> >
> > I asked this question in a different way recently
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