[TowerTalk] PAN CAKE ANTENNA -TAK-ANTENNA

David Gilbert xdavid at cis-broadband.com
Tue Apr 15 18:56:30 EDT 2008



That's pretty much been my impression of this antenna.  It generally 
gets rave reviews on eHam.net (doesn't everything?), but all you have to 
do is look at it to see a few obvious things:

1.  Three feet of linear element is going to have a VERY low radiation 
resistance.
2.  The spiral ends equate to lots of inductance and lots of distributed 
capacitance, none of which radiates effectively.
3.  Direct coax feed without a balun or shield choke is a dead give-away 
for dependency upon feedline radiation.

It's merely an expensive tank circuit at the end of a radiating 
feedline.  It would be interesting to see someone who owns one replace 
it with a traditional coil and capacitor and compare the performance, or 
as you say simply test it with and without a good common mode choke.

Dave  AB7E


K4SAV wrote:
> I recently got some real dimensions and rebuilt my model for this 
> antenna.  This antenna is supposed to cover 40 meters thru 10 meters by 
> selecting taps on the coils.
>
> Radiation resistance of the antenna on 40 meters without the feedline is 
> about 0.23 ohms.  Feedpoint impedance on 40 meters in free space without 
> a feedline or any kind of matching network is about 3.2 ohms.
>
> When you attach the feedline things change a lot.  With the proper taps 
> on the coils and with the right length feedline you can get a very broad 
> low SWR curve across the band (40 meters).  With the antenna at 20 feet, 
> the gain is about -2.4 dBi with a take-off angle of 30 degrees.  The 
> pattern is all vertically polarized (all feedline radiation).  Notice 
> that this antenna has no common mode choke and is fed directly with 
> coax.  When adding a good choke to remove the feedline radiation, the 
> gain goes to -9.5 dBi with a take-off angle of 90 degrees.  Some of this 
> gain reduction is due to feedline loss because removing the feedline 
> radiation also increases the SWR.  In this case since I only had 40 feet 
> of RG8X the coax loss was only 1.7 dB.  If the feedline had been 100 ft, 
> the gain would have gone to -12 dBi or 4.2 dB of coax loss.
>
> I expected to see the antenna do a little radiating on the higher bands, 
> but some unusual things happened.  Depending on feedline length and the 
> taps you select, you can direct a lot of current down the feedline or 
> not. In some cases with a lot of current down the feedline the take-off 
> angle was very high and low angle gain was low. In other cases with 
> different feedline lengths, the gain at low angles was reasonable (-2 to 
> -4 dBi).  You can't determine which condition you have by looking at the 
> SWR.  Playing with various combinations on 15 meters, the best gain I 
> ever got was -2 dBi and the worst was about -11 dBi.
>
> Summary: On 40 meters, the antenna acts as a variable unbalanced load 
> that injects large common mode currents onto the feedline.  The feedline 
> is the major radiator.  The thing on the top called the "antenna" is 
> used to fine tune the resonant frequency and SWR.  On the higher bands, 
> performance will be very unpredictable and can vary widely with each 
> installation.  In some cases it may approach the performance of a 
> no-radial vertical.
>
> Or so says EZNEC.
>
> Jerry, K4SAV


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