[TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 66, Issue 30
N1BAA - Jose Castillo
n1baa at comcast.net
Mon Jun 9 20:30:03 EDT 2008
I would not just put 2 cable clamps on each
end....I would use more than 2.....I think 4 or 5
are in order......
I know money is a consideration here....but guy
grips go a LONG way...and never have to be checked....
Good luck!
Jose - N1BAA
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> 1. Re: FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS (AD5VJ Bob)
> 2. Re: FW: Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts (Chuck Lewis)
> 3. Re: FW: Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts (Jim McLaughlin)
> 4. Re: FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS (Bruce Jungwirth)
> 5. Re: FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS (N7mal)
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> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:57:51 -0500
> From: "AD5VJ Bob" <rtnmi at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS
> To: <john at kk9a.com>, <TOWERTALK at contesting.com>
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> I have found a pdf on a Rohn Catalogue but it is dated 2004
>
> Bob AD5VJ
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: john at kk9a.com [mailto:john at kk9a.com]
>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 5:49 PM
>> To: TOWERTALK at contesting.com
>> Cc: rtnmi at sbcglobal.net
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS
>>
>> You probably should look at a Rohn catalog so you don't have
>> to guess or rely on other people's guesses. It will tell you
>> at what height to guy your tower, what size guy wire to use,
>> how many cable clamps are necessary, what anchors to use and
>> how to construct the concrete base (which hopefully you did
>> to their specification), etc. It really won't cost much more
>> to do it right and it could save a life.
>>
>>
>> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS
>> From: "AD5VJ Bob"
>> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:34:48 -0500
>>
>>
>> Hey guys *FINALLY* got my first tower since licensed 1965 in
>> the air and it sure looks pretty standing tall and proud as I
>> drive up to the QTH, I know this sounds strange, but I had to
>> drive up to the house a couple of extra times just to look at
>> it again Hi Hi
>>
>> Cant believe I am looking at mine and not someone else's Hi Hi
>>
>> Now I am looking for anyone who may have in excess to their
>> needs some guy wire for the prettiest Rohn 25 tower in Texas.
>> I have it up at 30 feet.
>>
>> I have already priced what else I need and after buying the
>> concrete and all, retail pricing is more than I can do right
>> now, so looking for a good deal from someone who has some
>> laying around and is willing to part with it.
>>
>> 3/16 or 1/4 guy wire should be fine I am guessing.
>>
>> I am guessing to guy it at the 25 foot level I need a set of
>> three at about 50 feet length each, if this is overkill
>> please let me know, I also need the associated hardware,
>> brackets ect. I am not using the Rohn Guying bracket since a
>> Ham told me I didn't need to spend that kind of money for a
>> guy bracket, just tie it to the leg of the tower.
>>
>> The guy who will climb the tower (using his harness and his
>> GinPole to mount the three element tribander) next weekend
>> said he wanted me to use two cable clamps at each end of each
>> guy wire, so I need 12 of those.
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> 73 fer nw es gud DX,
>> QSL VIA: LotW, BUR, e-QSL
>> Bob AD5VJ
>> http://www.ad5vj.com/
>> Old Calls WB5ZQU, WY5L/KH3, KE5CTY, N5IET
>>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:18:04 -0500
> From: "Chuck Lewis" <clewis at knology.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FW: Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts
> To: "Kimberly Elmore" <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>,
> <towertalk at contesting.com>
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> Wait a minute...
>
> We understand jam nuts. A jamnut prevents the pair of jammed nuts from
> moving WITH RESPECT TO THE BOLT or threaded rod; but they don't add any
> additional protection against the jamnut/bolt assembly moving in relation to
> the hole the assembly is screwed into. Jamnuts are useful, but not here.
>
> Here's a thought experiment: make up the jammed assembly as described and
> then weld the nuts to each other and to the bolt. Now you have a permanently
> stable assembly of bolt/nut/nut; but this is now absolutely identical in
> function to the original bolt, with the jammed and welded nuts being no more
> nor less than the head of the bolt. The rotor base and plate can't tell the
> difference.
>
> Jam nuts are useful on turnbuckles because they act as an "adjustable" bolt
> head, locking the otherwise loose eyebolt against the buckle. They are also
> marginally useful with a stud that's otherwise locked in place and where the
> stud itself is NOT going to loosen within its hole, or where (for other
> reasons) it's not advisable to apply sufficient torque to preload the bolt.
> Yes, they depend on applying the correct preload, i.e., stretching the bolt,
> just as a simple bolt, properly torqued. The jamnuts apply preload, too, but
> only in the vicinity of the nuts. The closest nut, or the head of a simple
> bolt still needs (at least) to be torqued to spec.
>
> Jamnuts in this application don't add anything beyond a false sense of
> security. Worse yet, if the first nut isn't properly torqued because it's
> thought that the jamnut will substitute, you'll be worse off. Beware of
> unintended consequences!
>
> 73, Chuck, N4NM
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kimberly Elmore" <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FW: Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts
>
>
>> Jam nuts are pretty common devices and are used all the time in things
>> like turnbuckles. Here's a simple test: tighten one nut against another on
>> some threaded rod, screw or bolt. Then, try to turn them. You can't. The
>> method depends on the elasticity of the threaded rod material: you have
>> essentially stretched the threaded rod between the two nuts. As long as
>> the stretched material doesn't permanently distort, the tension remains
>> and friction between the threads of the nuts against the threaded rod
>> holds the two nuts immobile.
>>
>> Kim Elmore, N5OP
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "Dubovsky, George" <George.Dubovsky at andrew.com>
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 2:23:37 PM
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] FW: Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dubovsky, George
>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:48 PM
>> To: 'Roger (K8RI)'
>> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:towertalk-
>>> bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Roger (K8RI)
>>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:04 PM
>>> To: Tower Talk
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts
>>>
>>> Dubovsky, George wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you think about it, this accomplishes nothing that a bolt would
>> not
>>>> accomplish in the same application.
>>> Yes it does.
>> No, it doesn't. So, there... ;-) My bolt has exactly the same holding
>> force on the lockwasher/captive plate as your double nut scheme does.
>> You claim the second nut keeps the first nut from loosening; the head of
>> my bolt never changes its orientation to the threaded section, so it
>> never "loosens" either. If my bolt loosens from vibration, so does your
>> scheme. Check your mechanics again.
>>
>>>> The second nut does nothing more
>>>> than make the first nut "thicker".
>>> A thicker nut and two nuts "locked" or jammed together are quite
>>> different in the way they work.
>>> A thicker nut or rather one twice as thick (two nuts) offers twice the
>>> area as do two nuts, but the two nuts work against each other by
>>> preventing each other from turning. The thicker nut does not.
>>>> If a properly sized bolt with a good
>>>> lockwasher under the head is not going to hold, than neither is an
>>>> improperly sized (long) bolt with two nuts forming a new "head"
>> further
>>>> down the shank of the bolt.
>>> The mechanics of the two are quite different as is the purpose. The
>>> problem is not holding, the problem is the bolt coming loose.
>>> Again two different problems although if a bolt comes loose it won't
>>> hold, not holding doesn't necessarily mean coming loose. IOW the one
>>> can break where the other just vibrates loose.
>>>> The second nut only guarantees that your new
>>>> "bolt head" doesn't move on the threads of the bolt, but the head on
>> a
>>>> hex-head cap screw already has that feature manufactured in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Both serve as "heads", but only one serves as a lock.
>>> The "jam nut" is not nearly as simple as it sounds.
>>>
>>>
>>> Roger (K8RI - ARRL Life Member)
>>> www.rogerhalstead.com
>>> N833R (World's oldest Debonair)
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:33:31 -0500
> From: "Jim McLaughlin" <dearborn9 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FW: Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts
> To: "Chuck Lewis" <clewis at knology.net>, "Kimberly Elmore"
> <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>, <towertalk at contesting.com>
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> Very nice to read the comments from someone who knows of what they speak and
> explains it so well. Nicer then reading those comments from .....well
> others.
>
> Jim- WA9FPT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Lewis" <clewis at knology.net>
> To: "Kimberly Elmore" <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>; <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FW: Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts
>
>
>> Wait a minute...
>>
>> We understand jam nuts. A jamnut prevents the pair of jammed nuts from
>> moving WITH RESPECT TO THE BOLT or threaded rod; but they don't add any
>> additional protection against the jamnut/bolt assembly moving in relation
>> to
>> the hole the assembly is screwed into. Jamnuts are useful, but not here.
>>
>> Here's a thought experiment: make up the jammed assembly as described and
>> then weld the nuts to each other and to the bolt. Now you have a
>> permanently
>> stable assembly of bolt/nut/nut; but this is now absolutely identical in
>> function to the original bolt, with the jammed and welded nuts being no
>> more
>> nor less than the head of the bolt. The rotor base and plate can't tell
>> the
>> difference.
>>
>> Jam nuts are useful on turnbuckles because they act as an "adjustable"
>> bolt
>> head, locking the otherwise loose eyebolt against the buckle. They are
>> also
>> marginally useful with a stud that's otherwise locked in place and where
>> the
>> stud itself is NOT going to loosen within its hole, or where (for other
>> reasons) it's not advisable to apply sufficient torque to preload the
>> bolt.
>> Yes, they depend on applying the correct preload, i.e., stretching the
>> bolt,
>> just as a simple bolt, properly torqued. The jamnuts apply preload, too,
>> but
>> only in the vicinity of the nuts. The closest nut, or the head of a simple
>> bolt still needs (at least) to be torqued to spec.
>>
>> Jamnuts in this application don't add anything beyond a false sense of
>> security. Worse yet, if the first nut isn't properly torqued because it's
>> thought that the jamnut will substitute, you'll be worse off. Beware of
>> unintended consequences!
>>
>> 73, Chuck, N4NM
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kimberly Elmore" <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FW: Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts
>>
>>
>>> Jam nuts are pretty common devices and are used all the time in things
>>> like turnbuckles. Here's a simple test: tighten one nut against another
>>> on
>>> some threaded rod, screw or bolt. Then, try to turn them. You can't. The
>>> method depends on the elasticity of the threaded rod material: you have
>>> essentially stretched the threaded rod between the two nuts. As long as
>>> the stretched material doesn't permanently distort, the tension remains
>>> and friction between the threads of the nuts against the threaded rod
>>> holds the two nuts immobile.
>>>
>>> Kim Elmore, N5OP
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: "Dubovsky, George" <George.Dubovsky at andrew.com>
>>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>>> Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 2:23:37 PM
>>> Subject: [TowerTalk] FW: Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dubovsky, George
>>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:48 PM
>>> To: 'Roger (K8RI)'
>>> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:towertalk-
>>>> bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Roger (K8RI)
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:04 PM
>>>> To: Tower Talk
>>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Hindsight: Check your rotator bolts
>>>>
>>>> Dubovsky, George wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think about it, this accomplishes nothing that a bolt would
>>> not
>>>>> accomplish in the same application.
>>>> Yes it does.
>>> No, it doesn't. So, there... ;-) My bolt has exactly the same holding
>>> force on the lockwasher/captive plate as your double nut scheme does.
>>> You claim the second nut keeps the first nut from loosening; the head of
>>> my bolt never changes its orientation to the threaded section, so it
>>> never "loosens" either. If my bolt loosens from vibration, so does your
>>> scheme. Check your mechanics again.
>>>
>>>>> The second nut does nothing more
>>>>> than make the first nut "thicker".
>>>> A thicker nut and two nuts "locked" or jammed together are quite
>>>> different in the way they work.
>>>> A thicker nut or rather one twice as thick (two nuts) offers twice the
>>>> area as do two nuts, but the two nuts work against each other by
>>>> preventing each other from turning. The thicker nut does not.
>>>>> If a properly sized bolt with a good
>>>>> lockwasher under the head is not going to hold, than neither is an
>>>>> improperly sized (long) bolt with two nuts forming a new "head"
>>> further
>>>>> down the shank of the bolt.
>>>> The mechanics of the two are quite different as is the purpose. The
>>>> problem is not holding, the problem is the bolt coming loose.
>>>> Again two different problems although if a bolt comes loose it won't
>>>> hold, not holding doesn't necessarily mean coming loose. IOW the one
>>>> can break where the other just vibrates loose.
>>>>> The second nut only guarantees that your new
>>>>> "bolt head" doesn't move on the threads of the bolt, but the head on
>>> a
>>>>> hex-head cap screw already has that feature manufactured in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Both serve as "heads", but only one serves as a lock.
>>>> The "jam nut" is not nearly as simple as it sounds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Roger (K8RI - ARRL Life Member)
>>>> www.rogerhalstead.com
>>>> N833R (World's oldest Debonair)
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:40:32 -0500
> From: "Bruce Jungwirth" <k0son at frontiernet.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS
> To: "AD5VJ Bob" <rtnmi at sbcglobal.net>, "Towertalk"
> <towertalk at contesting.com>
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> Bob Be proud of your new tower & enjoy all the benifits it will give
> you. I started out an HDBX at 32 ft with a 4 element Hornet just above the
> top. Had lost of fun with it in the late 60's. Barefoot Drake TR-3. Even
> busted some pileups. Man those were the days.
>
> Bruce K0SON
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AD5VJ Bob" <rtnmi at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'John Lemay'" <john at carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk>;
> <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS
>
>
>> No he wont be climbing it until there are guys on it.
>>
>> Bob AD5VJ
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Lemay [mailto:john at carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk]
>>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:16 AM
>>> To: 'AD5VJ Bob'; towertalk at contesting.com
>>> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> I am worried !
>>>
>>> You have erected a tower without guys.
>>>
>>> You are now asking a friend to climb this tower, without
>>> guys, so that he can fix guy ropes to it ??
>>>
>>> John G4ZTR
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of AD5VJ Bob
>>> Sent: 09 June 2008 02:35
>>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>>> Subject: [TowerTalk] FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS
>>>
>>> Hey guys *FINALLY* got my first tower since licensed 1965 in
>>> the air and it sure looks pretty standing tall and proud as I
>>> drive up to the QTH, I know this sounds strange, but I had to
>>> drive up to the house a couple of extra times just to look at
>>> it again Hi Hi
>>>
>>> Cant believe I am looking at mine and not someone else's Hi Hi
>>>
>>> Now I am looking for anyone who may have in excess to their
>>> needs some guy wire for the prettiest Rohn 25 tower in Texas.
>>> I have it up at 30 feet.
>>>
>>> I have already priced what else I need and after buying the
>>> concrete and all, retail pricing is more than I can do right
>>> now, so looking for a good deal from someone who has some
>>> laying around and is willing to part with it.
>>>
>>> 3/16 or 1/4 guy wire should be fine I am guessing.
>>>
>>> I am guessing to guy it at the 25 foot level I need a set of
>>> three at about 50 feet length each, if this is overkill
>>> please let me know, I also need the associated hardware,
>>> brackets ect. I am not using the Rohn Guying bracket since a
>>> Ham told me I didn't need to spend that kind of money for a
>>> guy bracket, just tie it to the leg of the tower.
>>>
>>> The guy who will climb the tower (using his harness and his
>>> GinPole to mount the three element tribander) next weekend
>>> said he wanted me to use two cable clamps at each end of each
>>> guy wire, so I need 12 of those.
>>>
>>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73 fer nw es gud DX,
>>> QSL VIA: LotW, BUR, e-QSL
>>> Bob AD5VJ
>>> http://www.ad5vj.com/
>>> Old Calls WB5ZQU, WY5L/KH3, KE5CTY, N5IET
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:06:17 -0000
> From: "N7mal" <n7mal at citlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS
> To: "AD5VJ Bob" <rtnmi at sbcglobal.net>, <towertalk at contesting.com>
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> Congrats Bob: In my 50 years at this hobby I've had a lot of towers at
> various locations. I have a personal hard fast rule about guys. They must do
> something other than guy. I make some type of wire antenna with the guys. In
> your particular case I would make at a bare minimum a 40 meter inverted vee.
> Since you have at least 50 feet of available room you might consider the
> reyco traps and make a 40/75 meter inverted vee. It would work many db's
> better than a G5RV.
> Just my 2 cents worth
> Congrats again and 73
>
>
> MAL
> N7MAL
> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
> http://www.n7mal.com
> Everyone in the world is
> entitled to be burdened
> by my opinion
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: AD5VJ Bob
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34
> Subject: [TowerTalk] FIRST TOWER UP AND LOOKING GORGEOUS
>
>
> Hey guys *FINALLY* got my first tower since licensed 1965 in the air and it
> sure looks pretty standing tall and proud as I drive up
> to the QTH, I know this sounds strange, but I had to drive up to the house a
> couple of extra times just to look at it again Hi Hi
>
> Cant believe I am looking at mine and not someone else's Hi Hi
>
> Now I am looking for anyone who may have in excess to their needs some guy
> wire for the prettiest Rohn 25 tower in Texas. I have it
> up at 30 feet.
>
> I have already priced what else I need and after buying the concrete and
> all, retail pricing is more than I can do right now, so
> looking for a good deal from someone who has some laying around and is
> willing to part with it.
>
> 3/16 or 1/4 guy wire should be fine I am guessing.
>
> I am guessing to guy it at the 25 foot level I need a set of three at about
> 50 feet length each, if this is overkill please let me
> know, I also need the associated hardware, brackets ect. I am not using the
> Rohn Guying bracket since a Ham told me I didn't need to
> spend that kind of money for a guy bracket, just tie it to the leg of the
> tower.
>
> The guy who will climb the tower (using his harness and his GinPole to mount
> the three element tribander) next weekend said he
> wanted me to use two cable clamps at each end of each guy wire, so I need 12
> of those.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
>
> 73 fer nw es gud DX,
> QSL VIA: LotW, BUR, e-QSL
> Bob AD5VJ
> http://www.ad5vj.com/
> Old Calls WB5ZQU, WY5L/KH3, KE5CTY, N5IET
>
>
>
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