[TowerTalk] PayPal As a Method of Payment for Tower Parts, etc.

Sun Feb 15 20:07:22 EST 2009

If you sell anything on EBAY, towers antennas included, you MUST ACCEPT 
PAYPAL if you do NOT YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE USER AGREEMENT and your 
accounts, EBAY and PAYPAL will be CLOSED! READ YOUR USER AGREEMENT!! If a 
buyer PICKS up a ITEM YOU ARE IN VIOLATION of the PAYPAL AGREEMENT and WILL 
NOT BE COVERED BY THE SELLERS PROTECTION KNOW YOUR AGREEMENTS!! I LEARNED 
THE HARD WAY. I hope you guys do NOT!! I'm not trying to violate the 
agreement of this reflector, but you guys are MISSING the FACTS. If you 
don't believe me someone open a on auction on EBAY for a tower or antenna 
and put in description NO PAYPAL and pickup only. AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO 
YOUR ACCOUNT AND AUCTION! Less than 24 hrs it will be stopped and account 
closed!!
73
de
NE6V
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Walker" <jim at walkersdomain.com>
To: "'Towertalk'" <towertalk at contesting.com>; "'D.Calder'" 
<towertalk at n4zkf.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] PayPal As a Method of Payment for Tower Parts, etc.

I guess I'm missing something here.  If you were going to transact the deal
locally, why in the world would you arrange payment through Paypal anyway??

On a deal like that, I would have stated, local pickup only and payment via
Postal Money Order ONLY.  I would have also stipulated that payment had to
be received within 5 days OR at the time the tower was picked up which ever
is earliest.  I have found Postal Money Order is the best method of face to
face payment or when it doesn't make sense to use Paypal.

Jim
KB0X

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of NE6V
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:34 PM
To: Towertalk; D.Calder
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] PayPal As a Method of Payment for Tower Parts, etc.

I have read a couple of post this am, and had to comment. You guys are
correct PAYPAL does offer safe guards  second to none. Where your post have
missed and you did not comment on are the areas I was  made at with PAYPAL.
If you sell on EBAY say a ROHN HBDX-48 tower and in your auction you clearly
list it as "pickup" only. It sells a local guy picks it up. You are paid
through PAYPAL.Couple of problems. 1. In 2008 EBAY RAISED THE SALES
FEES.2.PAYPAL RAISED THE FEES.3.IF YOU READ THE USER AGREEMENT WITH PAYPAL
YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF IT AND WILL NOT HAVE SELLER PROTECTION IF YOUR BUYER
PICKS UP AN ITEM!!! Know your not trying to rip someone off you just don't
want to get into delivery of a heavy tower!! That's the sort of stuff I
dislike PAYPAL for! So Dave, Jim those are my issues' repeat they are HUGE
FEE hikes and these unreasonable conditions. Is it so bad to have someone
pick up an item, I didn't think so but PAYPAL did. There are a HUGE NUMBER
OF articles to read on this subject I'm not alone. last year EBAY lost 5% of
their customers, and with millions 5% is a BUNCH.

Good Luck
73
de
NE^V
----- Original Message -----
From: "D.Calder" <towertalk at n4zkf.com>
To: <jim at walkersdomain.com>; <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] PayPal As a Method of Payment for Tower Parts, etc.

Same here. Got ripped on some tower parts a couple years ago using PayPal,
They told me to send it back, they froze his account. He got the misled
parts back, they took it out of his account, paid me, unfroze his account
and all was well. Except for the liar who sold the tower parts to me.

I wouldn't have had to go that far if he would have been fair but he just
didn't want to be so I went to them and they fixed it for me.

Never any problems here. (knock on wood).

Dave Calder
n4zkf at n4zkf.com
www.n4zkf.com

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Walker
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:30 AM
To: towertalk at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Paypal As a Method of Payment for Tower Parts, etc.

 Folks,

To all of you who believe Paypal is a rip-off I say this to you.

All forms of payment work well when both parties are trustworthy and without
a hidden agenda that includes ripping off the other person.

Paypal is the best method that can be used to transact a sale of
goods/services when the parties can not meet face-to-face to complete the
deal.  AND Paypal does offer some forms of security for both buyer and
seller.  Other methods of payment offer no form of security, i.e. paper
instruments such as checks offer no security if the check, money order or
cashier's check is bad.  Cash offers no security if it is counterfeit.  The
only form of payment that is somewhat secure is bank transfers of funds.
Once payment is in your account, the other party can not unilaterally have
it returned for any reason.

And to keep this post on topic I will just say that I have used Paypal for
many years, to sell tower parts and other ham related items and have never
had an issue with their policies.  Not only that, but once a few years ago,
their protection policies help be regain my funds back from a seller with
unscrupulous intentions.

So if a deal went bad and Paypal was used as the method of payment; chances
are it would have gone bad if any other method of payment was used.

JMHO,

Jim
KBØX

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of paul at n4lcd.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:42 PM
To: towertalk at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] OUR Answer to PAYPAL

>Paypal and ebay are related businesses.

In our business, we initially had everyone mail us a check.  Then we added
paypal.  Then paypal added the ability for customers to use credit cards
without having to have a paypal account.  Worked great.  Still does.

Then we added a regular credit card merchant account through our bank.  The
fees were beyond ridiculous so after a few years we dumped it and went back
to using paypal exclusively.  We process over $20,000 per month through
paypal and have had no problems for the decade we've been using paypal.  Our
overall experience with paypal has been quite good.

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