[TowerTalk] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!

[Kelly Johnson]

It does exist, but you're not likely to get the answer you want there
anyway.  I'm reasonably certain they will tell you that the city of
Palmdale is overstepping their bounds and the only recourse is to take
them to court (again).  It's all about money.  This can be stopped,
but only if enough hams are willing to hire good lawyers (like Fred
Hopengarten to fight it for them.  Put up or shut up.  Making YouTube
videos isn't gonna cut it.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Ed McGrath<w5iok at windstream.net> wrote:
> I don't think the Ham-Law Mailing list exists anymore. I have tried to join
> and get a message, No such mailing list: @mail.altlaw.com
>
> Ed, W5IOK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Miller KG0KP" <JimMiller at STL-OnLine.Net>
> To: "Dave LaBat" <labatd at ca.rr.com>; <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!
>
>
>> This kind of stuff needs to (also?) be on the Ham-Law reflector -
>>
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>> 73, de Jim KG0KP
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave LaBat" <labatd at ca.rr.com>
>> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!
>>
>>
>>> Ok, their presentation is a little "different" but perhaps the esteemed
>>> members of this list would like to read the city of Palmdale's proposal
>>> that
>>> is going before the city council tonight. The recommendation and
>>> justification is at
>>> http://www.cityofpalmdale.org/city_hall/Planning/2009-07/AMeeting/spl70978h.pdf
>>> it is more than a little scary. The contention of the city council is
>>> that
>>> the city may have lost in court, but the court told us how we can make it
>>> unreasonable for any radio amateur to have any antennas that are
>>> effective
>>> and we can do it legally, so we will.
>>>
>>> If I read the proposal correctly to have a tower than is no more than 25
>>> feet higher than an existing structure you must get all your neighbors
>>> signatures saying they have no objection, you must justify why you need
>>> THAT
>>> MUCH height, you must tell the city how much power you will use (???) and
>>> the city can hire a "consultant" to determine if your justification is
>>> reasonable..... at YOUR expense. Want to guess how much putting in 5
>>> sections of 25G just went up to in the city of Palmdale, if you can do it
>>> all?
>>>
>>> I understand why they are excited.
>>>
>>> Dave NT6AA
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <kq6i at arrl.net>
>>> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:17 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Titled "Antenna Envy".
>>>>
>>>> rgrds
>>>> Craig
>>>> kq6i
>>>> Peace, long-life, and gud DX!
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: N7mal [mailto:n7mal at citlink.net]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:52 AM
>>>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!
>>>>
>>>> Didn't I see those 2 in a porn flick....   :-)
>>>>
>>>> MAL
>>>> N7MAL
>>>> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
>>>> http://www.n7mal.com
>>>> Everyone in the world is
>>>> entitled to be burdened
>>>> by my opinion
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Pete Smith
>>>> To: D.G.
>>>> Cc: wosborne44 at gmail.com ; TOWERTALK at contesting.com ; john at kk9a.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:33
>>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This guy again?  He must think we've forgotten the last round.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/8/2009 8:57 PM, D.G. wrote:
>>>>> City attempts to shut down ham radio .... !!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d5B9UPw_10
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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