[TowerTalk] Flying critters

Mon Aug 16 17:40:54 PDT 2010

I have a friend whose wife was stung in the garden,
(had been stung several times before)
and in 10 minutes she was dead of suffocation.
(you never know, even if you've been stung before)

It was a local tragedy reported also in the local
paper, was a wake up call for all of us.

Very sad.  Left a family of two girls and husband of 25 years.
wd8aam

At 00:26 8/17/2010, you wrote:
>Yup right back at ya!
>
>First: I am not a doctor.
>
>But I think the distinction is
>a) ease the pain of a sting (meat tenderizer)
>vs
>b) go into anaphalactic shock due to allergy (have an Epi-Pen or a nearby
>ambulance)
>
>Maybe there are shades of gray.
>
>I guess if you get stung, and have nothing better, the meat tenderizer can't
>hurt, but my point was more to those who do/might have bee venom allergy,
>and if stung, need immediate EMS.
>
>I have never had a crisis event, but do have a variety of low-grade
>allergies, and each time I get stung (about once a year), the reaction is a
>bit worse than the prior sting. My XYL is the same way but last year got
>stung and all was OK but the it became a rather serious wound (took 2-3
>weeks to go away) and the doc said she should start carrying an "Epi Pen
>just in case".
>
>YMMV.
>
>Health + GL + 73
>
>Dan
>K0DAN
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>
>To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
>Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 3:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Flying critters
>
>
> >
> >
> > On 8/16/2010 1:41 PM, K0DAN wrote:
> >> If you suspect a bee sting (or snake bite, spider bite, etc.) allergy
> >> (for
> >> you or your friends&  loved ones) you should get your doctor to evaluate
> >> and
> >> write a script for an "Epi-Pen",
> > Many of these allergies, like mine, were not of the anaphylactic or the
> > shock type. They just hurt and really swelled at the point of the bite
> > or sting.
> >> and have one or more along always. People
> >> with extreme sting allergies (and we might not know we have them) can go
> >> into shock and die rather quickly, the Epi Pen (an intra-muscular
> >> ephinephrine {andrenaline} injection) can buy time and keep the victim
> >> breathing while EMS can be summoned to transport to hospital.
> >>
> >> As we get older, our allergy threshholds get more unpredictable...caveat
> >> emptor!
> >>
> > Yup. Things that bothered me when I was young no longer bother while
> > some new things have taken their place.  Some allergies have come and
> > gone within the space of a few years.
> >
> > Due to the allergies I've taken shots for nearly 25 years.  When I told
> > the Allergist about the stings he is the one who told me to carry the
> > packet of Adolph's Meat Tenderizer. It has an enzyme that digests the
> > protein in the venom, just like it partially digests your stake to make
> > it tender. Think about that for a bit, or maybe not. <:-))
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Roger (K8RI)
> >
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Dan
> >> K0DAN
> >>
> >> EPI-PEN:
> >> http://www.epipen.com/
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Roger (K8RI)"<K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>
> >> To:<towertalk at contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:53 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Flying critters
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On 8/16/2010 4:49 AM, K7LXC at aol.com wrote:
> >>>> In a message dated 8/15/2010 11:44:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> >>>> towertalk-request at contesting.com writes:
> >>>>
> >>>>>    Once I was doing repair on a coax switch about 70' up on  the
> >>>>> tower.
> >>>>> As
> >>>> I
> >>>> was taking the cover off the enclosure I heard a very  loud "rattle"
> >>>> within
> >>>> the box.  I remember thinking that it sounded  like a rattlesnake, but
> >>>> how
> >>>> could a snake climb a tower?
> >>>>
> >>>>>     As I took the cover off the box I was engulfed by a swarm of
> >>>>> wasps.
> >>>>> It
> >>>> seems they had decided to build a large nest inside.  The rattle  was
> >>>> them
> >>>> flying into the metal box.
> >>>>
> >>>>>    I immediately aborted  my repair and carefully began to descend the
> >>>> tower.
> >>>>
> >>>>>    By the  time I got to the ground, the little buggers had "gotten"
> >>>>> me 6
> >>>> times.
> >>>>
> >>>>>    Lessons learned:
> >>>>>    -Seal all  enclosures to prevent insects from entering.
> >>>> -Wear long pants and  sleeves...even in hot weather.
> >>>> -Its better to have switches ground mounted  than up the tower. (even
> >>>> for
> >>>> stacks).
> >>>> -Always have 2 halyards on the  belt.  Always be strapped-in.
> >>>>
> >>>>       And always have a container of Adolph's Meat  Tenderizer on hand.
> >>>> There
> >>>> are enzymes in it that'll take the sting out of a  wasp, etc. bite. And
> >>>> it
> >>>> works in less than a minute. Highly recommended.
> >>> Man, does that stuff work!  years ago I developed a relergic reaction to
> >>> a number of stings and bites.
> >>> The Doc's instructions, carry a package of Adolph's Meat Tenderizer and
> >>> apply immediately. The difference between
> >>> Immediately and even one minute was substantial. If I went in the house
> >>> and applied the stuff to a black fly bite on the wrist,
> >>> my wrist would become as large or larger than my hand.  At one minute it
> >>> would look like a bad sting. Applied immediately
> >>> there would only be a tiny red spot at the actual bite with no residual
> >>> itching.  The same applied to bee stings.
> >>>
> >>> I had to take allergy shots for a couple of years and the allergy went
> >>> away.  Allergies are strange, they can come on, last for a time, and go
> >>> away. Things that bothered as a kid may not bother as an adult things
> >>> that never bothered may suddenly do so.
> >>>
> >>> 73
> >>>
> >>> Roger (K8RI)
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Steve    K7LXC
> >>>> TOWER TECH
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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