[TowerTalk] Flying critters

Tue Aug 17 00:36:47 PDT 2010


On 8/16/2010 8:26 PM, K0DAN wrote:
> Yup right back at ya!
>
> First: I am not a doctor.
>
> But I think the distinction is
> a) ease the pain of a sting (meat tenderizer)
> vs
If it is done immediately it will neutralize most of the venom reducing 
the likely hood of shock, but should not be relied on in place of the 
epi-pen.
The Allergist told me that if after using "Adolph's" I did not notice 
swelling in the throat, elevated pulse,  rapid breathing/shortness of 
breath, it should be OK. I do not mean this as medical advice. It is 
only what I was told. Other doctors may treat differently with different 
patients.
> b) go into anaphalactic shock due to allergy (have an Epi-Pen or a nearby
> ambulance)
>
> Maybe there are shades of gray.
Many

73

Roger (K8RI)
> I guess if you get stung, and have nothing better, the meat tenderizer can't
> hurt, but my point was more to those who do/might have bee venom allergy,
> and if stung, need immediate EMS.
>
> I have never had a crisis event, but do have a variety of low-grade
> allergies, and each time I get stung (about once a year), the reaction is a
> bit worse than the prior sting. My XYL is the same way but last year got
> stung and all was OK but the it became a rather serious wound (took 2-3
> weeks to go away) and the doc said she should start carrying an "Epi Pen
> just in case".
>
> YMMV.
>
> Health + GL + 73
>
> Dan
> K0DAN
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger (K8RI)"<K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>
> To:<towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 3:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Flying critters
>
>
>>
>> On 8/16/2010 1:41 PM, K0DAN wrote:
>>> If you suspect a bee sting (or snake bite, spider bite, etc.) allergy
>>> (for
>>> you or your friends&   loved ones) you should get your doctor to evaluate
>>> and
>>> write a script for an "Epi-Pen",
>> Many of these allergies, like mine, were not of the anaphylactic or the
>> shock type. They just hurt and really swelled at the point of the bite
>> or sting.
>>> and have one or more along always. People
>>> with extreme sting allergies (and we might not know we have them) can go
>>> into shock and die rather quickly, the Epi Pen (an intra-muscular
>>> ephinephrine {andrenaline} injection) can buy time and keep the victim
>>> breathing while EMS can be summoned to transport to hospital.
>>>
>>> As we get older, our allergy threshholds get more unpredictable...caveat
>>> emptor!
>>>
>> Yup. Things that bothered me when I was young no longer bother while
>> some new things have taken their place.  Some allergies have come and
>> gone within the space of a few years.
>>
>> Due to the allergies I've taken shots for nearly 25 years.  When I told
>> the Allergist about the stings he is the one who told me to carry the
>> packet of Adolph's Meat Tenderizer. It has an enzyme that digests the
>> protein in the venom, just like it partially digests your stake to make
>> it tender. Think about that for a bit, or maybe not.<:-))
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Roger (K8RI)
>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> K0DAN
>>>
>>> EPI-PEN:
>>> http://www.epipen.com/
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Roger (K8RI)"<K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>
>>> To:<towertalk at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:53 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Flying critters
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 8/16/2010 4:49 AM, K7LXC at aol.com wrote:
>>>>> In a message dated 8/15/2010 11:44:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>>>> towertalk-request at contesting.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>     Once I was doing repair on a coax switch about 70' up on  the
>>>>>> tower.
>>>>>> As
>>>>> I
>>>>> was taking the cover off the enclosure I heard a very  loud "rattle"
>>>>> within
>>>>> the box.  I remember thinking that it sounded  like a rattlesnake, but
>>>>> how
>>>>> could a snake climb a tower?
>>>>>
>>>>>>      As I took the cover off the box I was engulfed by a swarm of
>>>>>> wasps.
>>>>>> It
>>>>> seems they had decided to build a large nest inside.  The rattle  was
>>>>> them
>>>>> flying into the metal box.
>>>>>
>>>>>>     I immediately aborted  my repair and carefully began to descend the
>>>>> tower.
>>>>>
>>>>>>     By the  time I got to the ground, the little buggers had "gotten"
>>>>>> me 6
>>>>> times.
>>>>>
>>>>>>     Lessons learned:
>>>>>>     -Seal all  enclosures to prevent insects from entering.
>>>>> -Wear long pants and  sleeves...even in hot weather.
>>>>> -Its better to have switches ground mounted  than up the tower. (even
>>>>> for
>>>>> stacks).
>>>>> -Always have 2 halyards on the  belt.  Always be strapped-in.
>>>>>
>>>>>        And always have a container of Adolph's Meat  Tenderizer on hand.
>>>>> There
>>>>> are enzymes in it that'll take the sting out of a  wasp, etc. bite. And
>>>>> it
>>>>> works in less than a minute. Highly recommended.
>>>> Man, does that stuff work!  years ago I developed a relergic reaction to
>>>> a number of stings and bites.
>>>> The Doc's instructions, carry a package of Adolph's Meat Tenderizer and
>>>> apply immediately. The difference between
>>>> Immediately and even one minute was substantial. If I went in the house
>>>> and applied the stuff to a black fly bite on the wrist,
>>>> my wrist would become as large or larger than my hand.  At one minute it
>>>> would look like a bad sting. Applied immediately
>>>> there would only be a tiny red spot at the actual bite with no residual
>>>> itching.  The same applied to bee stings.
>>>>
>>>> I had to take allergy shots for a couple of years and the allergy went
>>>> away.  Allergies are strange, they can come on, last for a time, and go
>>>> away. Things that bothered as a kid may not bother as an adult things
>>>> that never bothered may suddenly do so.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Roger (K8RI)
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Steve    K7LXC
>>>>> TOWER TECH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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