[TowerTalk] Repairing Yaesu G-800SA

[Perry - K4PWO]

You can use a 12-volt battery to apply power to the rotor motor to see if it 
moves.  The polarity controls direction so make sure the rotor isn't against 
a stop.  I've used a rechargeable drill's power pack as a test power source 
before.  A "jump starter" pack will also work.  Here are two possible 
solutions if the rotor controller is defective.
http://www.mds-ham.com/RC1-Y-Digital-Rotor-Control.htm
http://www.greenheronengineering.com/

73 de Perry - K4PWO

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From: "Terrence R. Redding Ph.D." <terry at oltraining.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:54 AM
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Repairing Yaesu G-800SA

> I need to trouble shoot my rotor control system.  I have a G-800SA.  Does
> someone know the output voltages of the four wires coming from the
> controller and can someone tell me how to test the rotor from the ground 
> so
> I don't have to remove the rotor to do it.
>
> I am assuming that I have a controller problem, and that the rotor is 
> fine.
> Therefore, I most likely will buy a new controller, and redo the control
> wires.  Are there aftermarket controllers to consider, or is my only 
> choice
> to go with a replacement Yaesu controller?
>
> All comments appreciated.
>
> Terry
>
>
> On 1/17/10 10:02 AM, "towertalk-request at contesting.com"
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>>    1. Re: Guywires - changing to - Tower Base (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
>>    2. Re: Guywires - changing to - Tower Base (Doug Renwick)
>>    3. Re: Guywires - changing to - Tower Base (Roger (K8RI))
>>    4. Software for rotators control (Codrut)
>>    5. Re: Guywires - changing to - Tower Base (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
>>    6. Re: Guying a tower....Heresy to follow..... True statement!
>>       (Julio Peralta)
>>    7. Re: Guywires - changing to - Tower Base (K1TTT)
>>    8. Re: Guywires - changing to - Tower Base (K1TTT)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:41:23 -0600
>> From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
>> <towertalk at contesting.com>
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>> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
>> with these numbers?
>>
>> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>>
>> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
>> tower says?
>>
>> 73,
>> Joe kk0sd
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:34 PM
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>>
>> If you really want facts, the rohn catalog calls for a 2'6"x2'6'x4' base 
>> for
>> 180' of 55g.  but a 64' bx series rohn tower calls for a 5'9"x5'9"x4' 
>> base.
>>
>>
>> David Robbins K1TTT
>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
>> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
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>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Michael Ryan [mailto:mryan001 at tampabay.rr.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 20:13
>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>>>
>>> This thread just keeps getting better and better...very 
>>> entertaining...not
>>> very factual....but entertaining...pass the popcorn.  - Mike
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:41 PM
>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>>>
>>>> Now maybe someone will address the massive concrete bases recommended 
>>>> in
>>>> the
>>>> catalogs?  I maintain that if the tower is held vertical by the guys
>>> there
>>>> is near zero horizontal reaction at the base and all we need is enough
>>>> base
>>>> AREA to keep the thing from sinking, plus enough horizontal restraint 
>>>> to
>>>> handle the windload on the tower between the ground and the first guys,
>>>> which isn't much.  There is no overturning moment at all.
>>>
>>> Guyed towers have relatively small bases, my 180' rohn 55 base is only
>>> 4'x4'x5'.  Self supporting towers have much bigger base requirements.
>>>
>>> David Robbins K1TTT
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:49:31 -0600
>> From: Doug Renwick <ve5ra at sasktel.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
>> <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <009901ca9730$76aa0a00$4968a58e at doug4>
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>> 4 feet down works for me and here water lines need to be deeper than 8
>> feet.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> I'll run the race and I will never be the same again.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary "Joe"
>> Mayfield
>> Sent: January 16, 2010 9:41 PM
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>
>> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
>> with these numbers?
>>
>> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>>
>> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
>> tower says?
>>
>> 73,
>> Joe kk0sd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:29:08 -0500
>> From: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>> To: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics."
>> <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <4B52A024.9070007 at tm.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>
>>
>> Doug Renwick wrote:
>>> 4 feet down works for me and here water lines need to be deeper than 8
>>> feet.
>>>
>> In the lower 48?
>>
>> Here in Michigan I think they require 3', but I don't think I've seen
>> the frost line make it more than 12 to 14 inches in the last two
>> decades.  That with the exception of under driveways.
>> Even after all the really cold weather, with about a half foot of snow
>> left, I doubt more than the top couple of inches is frozen.
>> 73
>>
>> Roger (K8RI)
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> I'll run the race and I will never be the same again.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary "Joe"
>>> Mayfield
>>> Sent: January 16, 2010 9:41 PM
>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>>
>>> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
>>> with these numbers?
>>>
>>> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>>>
>>> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
>>> tower says?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Joe kk0sd
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:13:45 +0200
>> From: "Codrut" <codrut.buda at rdslink.ro>
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Software for rotators control
>> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <000001ca96be$80421ed0$80c65c70$@buda at rdslink.ro>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I hope somebody will find usefull the PstRotator program. It can be
>> downloaded from
>>  <http://www.qsl.net/yo3dmu/index_Page346.htm>
>> www.qsl.net/yo3dmu/index_Page346.htm
>>
>> PstRotator handles just about every controllable rotator in common use:
>> Prosistel "D" and "C", RT-20 and RT-21 Green Heron, DCU-1 HyGain, RC1 
>> MDS,
>> Rotor-EZ Idiom Press, Easy-Rotor-Control, Yaesu Az and Yaesu Az/El 
>> GS-232A
>> and GS-232B, M2 RC2800, AlfaSpid RAK Az and RAS Az/El, Easycomm, ST3 Fox
>> Delta, Endeavour Electronics AutoTracker, ZL1BPU, EGIS, Create RAC825, 
>> EA4TX
>> Arswin, DL7AOT, LBV Tracker, PrimeSat and VK5DJ.
>>
>> PstRotator provides automatic tracking for satelites and EME, using for 
>> this
>> WXtrack, WinOrbit, Orbitron, Nova for Windows, Sat_Explorer, SatPC32, 
>> WSJT,
>> Z-Track, GJTracker, EME System, Trak_SM, or HRD Satellite Tracker. Also 
>> it
>> works with some contest loggers like N1MM, TACLog and Win-Test. Other
>> programs supported are MixW, DXView, VQLog and Ham Radio Deluxe v5 (HRD
>> Logbook).
>>
>>
>>
>> Tracking the moon is easier now using an internal algorithm.
>>
>>
>>
>> PstRotator supports multiuser remote control over TCP/IP.
>>
>>
>>
>> Antenna can be pointed on any direction with:
>>
>> - mouse click on a map,
>>
>> - mouse click on the compass rose,
>>
>> - left/right/up/down keyboard arrows,
>>
>> - setting the azimuth / elevation,
>>
>> - setting the QRA locator (4, 6 or 8 digits),
>>
>> - selecting the DXCC,
>>
>> - typing a callsign,
>>
>>
>> 73, Codrut - YO3DMU
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:56:25 -0600
>> From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
>> <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <COL114-DS2587170B701BEBF39A04AD8A670 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>>     Thanks for the help.  I was hoping to hear from someone up North :-) 
>> .
>> I will follow the specs exactly for my 5'9" X 5'9" by 4' hole.  I was
>> worried about frost jacking / ground heaving.
>>
>>      On a related note I was surprised to see in the Rohn notes that wire
>> mess was acceptable for re-enforcing, do you know of anyone who has done
>> that as opposed to rebar?  It sure would be easier to work with.
>>
>> 73,
>> Joe kk0sd
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:50 PM
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>
>> 4 feet down works for me and here water lines need to be deeper than 8
>> feet.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> I'll run the race and I will never be the same again.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary "Joe"
>> Mayfield
>> Sent: January 16, 2010 9:41 PM
>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>
>> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
>> with these numbers?
>>
>> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>>
>> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
>> tower says?
>>
>> 73,
>> Joe kk0sd
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 07:33:15 -0500
>> From: "Julio Peralta" <jperalta4 at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a tower....Heresy to follow..... True
>> statement!
>> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
>> <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <654ECCB3DECA4A2582512585A1C89071 at juliof20ace861>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> My apologies to the list my last reply was sent to the list by mistake.
>>
>> Julio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:59:31 +0000
>> From: "K1TTT" <K1TTT at ARRL.NET>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
>> <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <BD4AC83F93714CC99FD8490ED44A89F0 at k1tttibm>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> For that you must read note 2 on drawing bb41300r6 "foundation material
>> specifications, installation notes and tolerances" that says "The 
>> purchaser
>> must verify that actual site soil parameters meet or exceed eia 'normal'
>> soil parameters and that the depth of standard foundations are adequate
>> based on the frost penetration and/or zone of seasonal moisture variation 
>> at
>> the site..."
>>
>>
>> David Robbins K1TTT
>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
>> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gary "Joe" Mayfield [mailto:gary_mayfield at hotmail.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 03:41
>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>>
>>> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
>>> with these numbers?
>>>
>>> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>>>
>>> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
>>> tower says?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Joe kk0sd
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:34 PM
>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>>>
>>> If you really want facts, the rohn catalog calls for a 2'6"x2'6'x4' base
>>> for
>>> 180' of 55g.  but a 64' bx series rohn tower calls for a 5'9"x5'9"x4'
>>> base.
>>>
>>>
>>> David Robbins K1TTT
>>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
>>> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>>> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Michael Ryan [mailto:mryan001 at tampabay.rr.com]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 20:13
>>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>>>>
>>>> This thread just keeps getting better and better...very
>>> entertaining...not
>>>> very factual....but entertaining...pass the popcorn.  - Mike
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of K1TTT
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:41 PM
>>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires
>>>>
>>>>> Now maybe someone will address the massive concrete bases recommended
>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> catalogs?  I maintain that if the tower is held vertical by the guys
>>>> there
>>>>> is near zero horizontal reaction at the base and all we need is enough
>>>>> base
>>>>> AREA to keep the thing from sinking, plus enough horizontal restraint
>>> to
>>>>> handle the windload on the tower between the ground and the first
>>> guys,
>>>>> which isn't much.  There is no overturning moment at all.
>>>>
>>>> Guyed towers have relatively small bases, my 180' rohn 55 base is only
>>>> 4'x4'x5'.  Self supporting towers have much bigger base requirements.
>>>>
>>>> David Robbins K1TTT
>>>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
>>>> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>>>> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:02:15 +0000
>> From: "K1TTT" <K1TTT at ARRL.NET>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
>> <towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <3C24C812E9434DDA83E9617D3B93970A at k1tttibm>
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>> Wire mesh must be in a more recent catalog than mine.  I would prefer 
>> rebar
>> except maybe for a big pad base.  For the 'normal' 25g/45g/55g bases up 
>> to
>> 200' or so I think that mesh would be harder to work with... probably
>> something to leave for the professionals.
>>
>>
>> David Robbins K1TTT
>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
>> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gary "Joe" Mayfield [mailto:gary_mayfield at hotmail.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 12:56
>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>>
>>> Doug,
>>>
>>>     Thanks for the help.  I was hoping to hear from someone up North :-) 
>>> .
>>> I will follow the specs exactly for my 5'9" X 5'9" by 4' hole.  I was
>>> worried about frost jacking / ground heaving.
>>>
>>>      On a related note I was surprised to see in the Rohn notes that 
>>> wire
>>> mess was acceptable for re-enforcing, do you know of anyone who has done
>>> that as opposed to rebar?  It sure would be easier to work with.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Joe kk0sd
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:50 PM
>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>>
>>> 4 feet down works for me and here water lines need to be deeper than 8
>>> feet.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> I'll run the race and I will never be the same again.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary "Joe"
>>> Mayfield
>>> Sent: January 16, 2010 9:41 PM
>>> To: 'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guywires - changing to - Tower Base
>>>
>>> What do folks living where 4 feet down is marginal (due to freezing), do
>>> with these numbers?
>>>
>>> I would not put a water line in here at any depth less than 6 feet.
>>>
>>> Is 4 feet deep enough for my tower base if that is what the book on the
>>> tower says?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Joe kk0sd
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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