[TowerTalk] Another Complaint About Tuner Offerings
Al Williams
alwilliams at olywa.net
Wed Nov 24 11:50:39 PST 2010
Thats worth more than two cents? I wasn't thinking of adding circuits to
display the values but if going that far it would really be helpful to
display the impedances as the dials are changed.
Twisting the dials of an antenna tuner is like driving a car
blindfolded-maybe a road will be there when the steering wheel is turned and
maybe not. Maybe the mismatch will be improved and maybe not- until after a
few trial and error attempts.
And when the tuner matches there is no clue as to what enabled the
match--only the meaningless numbers.
btw- it wouldn't work to simply think that 2.5 would mean 25 percent of
maximum value. The dials start with 0 making it necessary to mentally
offset all readings by the minimum value. Of course at maximum setting the
offset isn't appropiate.
k7puc
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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:07 AM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Another Complaint About Tuner Offerings
> As for the "meaningless dial markings" on tuners, If you know the
> capacitance to start with then it seems to me that "5" would be 50
> percent,
> 2.5 would be 25 percent, and so on. To incorporate the circuitry to allow
> you to see the actual capacitance would likely make tuners far more
> expensive than they already are. That's my two cents.
>
> Larry K0IS
>
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> 1. Re: Cushcraft Parts from MFJ (Andy)
> 2. Re: Cushcraft Parts from MFJ (N7mal)
> 3. too many tuners? (Al Williams)
> 4. Re: Cushcraft Parts from MFJ (k2qmf at juno.com)
> 5. Re: Cushcraft Parts from MFJ (n4zkf)
> 6. Re: Cushcraft Parts from MFJ (k2qmf at juno.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:58:56 -0500
> From: Andy <ai.egrps at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
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>> Why not just make 1-3..that actually work ? ? One simple tuner..minus the
> metering
>> is all anybody wants. ?Nobody needs a dummy load, with a built in.. has
> been ?wattmeter.
>> Just build one dummy load, sans metering.
>
> Because not everyone needs a multi-KW antenna tuner.
>
> And I'm sure many (myself included) find the metering quite handy, to
> know where to set the controls. 1 box is easier than 2 or 3.
>
> And some like auto-tuners.
>
> (BTW, I don't own an MFJ tuner.)
>
> Part of what distinguishes MFJ is the choices they offer, from cheap
> basics for the penny pinchers, to something more substantial. One
> size doesn't fit all. They'd lose a lot of business if they sold only
> one tuner.
>
> Do they really need so many antenna tuner models? Doubtful. Would
> the tuners or the company be better if they dropped 90% of them? Also
> very doubtful. They need to concentrate on quality control more,
> whether they are shipping one product or hundreds. I think that's the
> bigger problem. As in having employees whose sole job is overseeing
> QC, and re-structuring how the assembly floor works. They don't get
> that by pruning their product line.
>
> I don't really know much about MFJ, but in some respects I think they
> still have the small company mentality, from Mr. Jue on down. From
> what little I've seen of them, the folks who assemble each product are
> small teams, almost separate entities, even though the company has a
> huge product line. And neither size nor longevity equates to skill.
> There's little reason to change how you do business, if you are making
> a profit at it.
>
> If the rumor of a possible buyout are true, perhaps Martin Jue is just
> looking to retire. He is 66 and has been running it for four decades.
>
> Regards,
> Andy
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:19:18 -0000
> From: "N7mal" <n7mal at citlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <3BFC944F78DF40BABF7642DDC2D8CEDD at N7MAL98>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> NO NO Jim that won't fly any longer. 20 years ago that was the excuse for
> them. They were new etc etc etc. It is now 20 years later and the same
> garbage is coming from Mississippi. Just because they have acquired
> Cushcraft and Hy Gain they haven't addressed the major problem with MFJ,
> they still produce garbage.
> 20 years ago I met Martin and thought he was an OK guy, I was in the
> Electronics industry then. I thought once he got his act together he would
> be a good solid business. Well it's now 20 years later and there has been
> no
>
> change in that company.
> Sorry to be so blunt but that's just the facts.
> 73
>
>
> MAL
> N7MAL
> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
> http://www.n7mal.com
> Everyone in the world is
> entitled to be burdened
> by my opinion
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Thomson
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 04:33
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
>
>
> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:05:05 -0500
> From: "David Thompson" <thompson at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
>
> Come on gang lighten up.
>
> MFJ is still a small company. Martin Jue and Steve Pan (the management)
> are
> trying to do a good job. I am surprised that with all the acquisitions
> they
> are able to keep up.
>
> ## I find that hard to believe...after looking through the entire
> mfj/ameritron catalog.....it's huge. MFJ has been around for a LONG
> time. How many decades does it take em..to 'figure it all out' ?
> Why are they still selling crap, like BN-86 baluns ? If they improved
> just
> some of the products..and dumped the rest, they would spend way less time
> dealing with angry end users on the phone...and resulting warranty issues.
> Think abt it. Why would you want to offer 16 x diffrent types of ant
> tuners
>
> ?
> Why not just make 1-3..that actually work ? One simple tuner..minus the
> metering
> is all anybody wants. Nobody needs a dummy load, with a built in.. has
> been
>
> wattmeter.
> Just build one dummy load, sans metering.
>
>
>
> I sold an MFJ tuner to a fellow in Memphis and UPS put a forklift through
> the box and KOed the meter. MFJ fixed that I sent the tuner back to the
> fellow in two weeks. I helped a fellow overseas get parts for his TH-11
> which he got very quickly.
>
> Compared to Mosley and Idiom Press they run a good ship.
>
> ## IMO, Mosley has no clue whatsoever, about how to build an antenna,
> any antenna. Mosley still drones on about.."establishing resonance"....
> and
> '52 ohms'. Equal spaced monobanders went the way of the do-do bird back
> in the
> late 80's. How mosley and wilson managed to build hair pin / matching
> networks,
> that work on 20-15-10m is beyond me. The secret of course, is the trap's
> used have
> such a high R component to em.. that when added to the feedpoint Z, they
> end up
> closer to 50 ohms..and it's one big fudge.....swr wise.
>
> ## ever seen a 175 lb Telrex 20m yagi ? 6 x equal spaced els on a 46'
> boom. They
> didn't......'get it' either....and went outa business. That mystery
> black
> [sealed] black balun
> box that telrex built for their tribanders is a real hoot...... after you
> cut one open with a
> band saw. You will gag.
>
> Later... Jim VE7RF
>
>
> Dave K4JRB
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:29:23 -0800
> From: "Al Williams" <alwilliams at olywa.net>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] too many tuners?
> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
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>
> Another complaint about tuner offerings:
>
> All of them use meaningless dial markings e.g. 1 to 10, with some
> intermediate markings. The actual range is known e.g. 20-300 pf and would
> benefit everyone interested in understanding what is happening.
>
> Sometime additional capacitance is switched in addition but it would still
> be useful to the amount of variable capacitance.
>
> But as was mentioned, if the manufacturer is selling as is, why change?
>
> k7puc
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:31:51 -0500
> From: k2qmf at juno.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
> To: n7mal at citlink.net
> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <20101124.083218.22947.430149 at mailpop04.vgs.untd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Mal,
>
> I don't understand your hostility against MFJ???
>
> I have had many dealings with them and Hy-Gain and they
> were always responsive and very helpful!!
>
> As far as product quality, I'm sure that they cut corners in order
> to produce a cost effective product line but they do correct any
> problems, you may have, quickly and at their expense.....
>
> They're not the Cadillac of our hobby but they sure are the Chevrolet..
>
> What's in your garage???
>
> Ted
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:19:18 -0000 "N7mal" <n7mal at citlink.net> writes:
>> NO NO Jim that won't fly any longer. 20 years ago that was the excuse
>> for
>> them. They were new etc etc etc. It is now 20 years later and the
>> same
>> garbage is coming from Mississippi. Just because they have acquired
>>
>> Cushcraft and Hy Gain they haven't addressed the major problem with
>> MFJ,
>> they still produce garbage.
>> 20 years ago I met Martin and thought he was an OK guy, I was in the
>>
>> Electronics industry then. I thought once he got his act together he
>> would
>> be a good solid business. Well it's now 20 years later and there has
>> been no
>> change in that company.
>> Sorry to be so blunt but that's just the facts.
>> 73
>>
>>
>> MAL
>> N7MAL
>> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
>> http://www.n7mal.com
>> Everyone in the world is
>> entitled to be burdened
>> by my opinion
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jim Thomson
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 04:33
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
>>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:05:05 -0500
>> From: "David Thompson" <thompson at mindspring.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
>>
>> Come on gang lighten up.
>>
>> MFJ is still a small company. Martin Jue and Steve Pan (the
>> management) are
>> trying to do a good job. I am surprised that with all the
>> acquisitions they
>> are able to keep up.
>>
>> ## I find that hard to believe...after looking through the entire
>> mfj/ameritron catalog.....it's huge. MFJ has been around for a
>> LONG
>> time. How many decades does it take em..to 'figure it all out' ?
>> Why are they still selling crap, like BN-86 baluns ? If they
>> improved
>> just
>> some of the products..and dumped the rest, they would spend way less
>> time
>> dealing with angry end users on the phone...and resulting warranty
>> issues.
>> Think abt it. Why would you want to offer 16 x diffrent types of
>> ant tuners
>> ?
>> Why not just make 1-3..that actually work ? One simple tuner..minus
>> the
>> metering
>> is all anybody wants. Nobody needs a dummy load, with a built in..
>> has been
>> wattmeter.
>> Just build one dummy load, sans metering.
>>
>>
>>
>> I sold an MFJ tuner to a fellow in Memphis and UPS put a forklift
>> through
>> the box and KOed the meter. MFJ fixed that I sent the tuner back to
>> the
>> fellow in two weeks. I helped a fellow overseas get parts for his
>> TH-11
>> which he got very quickly.
>>
>> Compared to Mosley and Idiom Press they run a good ship.
>>
>> ## IMO, Mosley has no clue whatsoever, about how to build an
>> antenna,
>> any antenna. Mosley still drones on about.."establishing
>> resonance".... and
>> '52 ohms'. Equal spaced monobanders went the way of the do-do
>> bird back
>> in the
>> late 80's. How mosley and wilson managed to build hair pin /
>> matching
>> networks,
>> that work on 20-15-10m is beyond me. The secret of course, is the
>> trap's
>> used have
>> such a high R component to em.. that when added to the feedpoint
>> Z, they
>> end up
>> closer to 50 ohms..and it's one big fudge.....swr wise.
>>
>> ## ever seen a 175 lb Telrex 20m yagi ? 6 x equal spaced els on
>> a 46'
>> boom. They
>> didn't......'get it' either....and went outa business. That
>> mystery black
>> [sealed] black balun
>> box that telrex built for their tribanders is a real hoot......
>> after you
>> cut one open with a
>> band saw. You will gag.
>>
>> Later... Jim VE7RF
>>
>>
>> Dave K4JRB
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:49:32 -0500
> From: "n4zkf" <towertalk at n4zkf.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
> To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
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> A Chevrolet Corvette is in my garage and they are nowhere close to it! I
> have NEVER, I repeat NEVER bought an MFJ product EVER
> that I didn't have an issue with. EVER. That's the facts.
>
> I blame it on myself for giving them chances of which now I would never do
> again. I wouldn't order a screw from them. Did I say NEVER?
>
> They have NO response, NO quality, NO customer service. No hostility, just
> facts.
>
>
> n4zkf Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of k2qmf at juno.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:32 AM
> To: n7mal at citlink.net
> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
>
> Mal,
>
> I don't understand your hostility against MFJ???
>
> I have had many dealings with them and Hy-Gain and they were always
> responsive and very helpful!!
>
> As far as product quality, I'm sure that they cut corners in order to
> produce a cost effective product line but they do correct any problems,
> you
> may have, quickly and at their expense.....
>
> They're not the Cadillac of our hobby but they sure are the Chevrolet..
>
> What's in your garage???
>
> Ted
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:19:18 -0000 "N7mal" <n7mal at citlink.net> writes:
>> NO NO Jim that won't fly any longer. 20 years ago that was the excuse
>> for them. They were new etc etc etc. It is now 20 years later and the
>> same garbage is coming from Mississippi. Just because they have
>> acquired
>>
>> Cushcraft and Hy Gain they haven't addressed the major problem with
>> MFJ, they still produce garbage.
>> 20 years ago I met Martin and thought he was an OK guy, I was in the
>>
>> Electronics industry then. I thought once he got his act together he
>> would be a good solid business. Well it's now 20 years later and there
>> has been no change in that company.
>> Sorry to be so blunt but that's just the facts.
>> 73
>>
>>
>> MAL
>> N7MAL
>> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
>> http://www.n7mal.com
>> Everyone in the world is
>> entitled to be burdened
>> by my opinion
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jim Thomson
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 04:33
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
>>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:05:05 -0500
>> From: "David Thompson" <thompson at mindspring.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
>>
>> Come on gang lighten up.
>>
>> MFJ is still a small company. Martin Jue and Steve Pan (the
>> management) are
>> trying to do a good job. I am surprised that with all the
>> acquisitions they are able to keep up.
>>
>> ## I find that hard to believe...after looking through the entire
>> mfj/ameritron catalog.....it's huge. MFJ has been around for a LONG
>> time. How many decades does it take em..to 'figure it all out' ?
>> Why are they still selling crap, like BN-86 baluns ? If they
>> improved
>> just
>> some of the products..and dumped the rest, they would spend way less
>> time dealing with angry end users on the phone...and resulting
>> warranty issues.
>> Think abt it. Why would you want to offer 16 x diffrent types of ant
>> tuners ?
>> Why not just make 1-3..that actually work ? One simple tuner..minus
>> the
>> metering
>> is all anybody wants. Nobody needs a dummy load, with a built in..
>> has been
>> wattmeter.
>> Just build one dummy load, sans metering.
>>
>>
>>
>> I sold an MFJ tuner to a fellow in Memphis and UPS put a forklift
>> through the box and KOed the meter. MFJ fixed that I sent the tuner
>> back to the fellow in two weeks. I helped a fellow overseas get parts
>> for his
>> TH-11
>> which he got very quickly.
>>
>> Compared to Mosley and Idiom Press they run a good ship.
>>
>> ## IMO, Mosley has no clue whatsoever, about how to build an
>> antenna,
>> any antenna. Mosley still drones on about.."establishing
>> resonance".... and
>> '52 ohms'. Equal spaced monobanders went the way of the do-do
>> bird back
>> in the
>> late 80's. How mosley and wilson managed to build hair pin /
>> matching
>> networks,
>> that work on 20-15-10m is beyond me. The secret of course, is the
>> trap's
>> used have
>> such a high R component to em.. that when added to the feedpoint Z,
>> they end up closer to 50 ohms..and it's one big fudge.....swr wise.
>>
>> ## ever seen a 175 lb Telrex 20m yagi ? 6 x equal spaced els on
>> a 46'
>> boom. They
>> didn't......'get it' either....and went outa business. That mystery
>> black [sealed] black balun box that telrex built for their tribanders
>> is a real hoot......
>> after you
>> cut one open with a
>> band saw. You will gag.
>>
>> Later... Jim VE7RF
>>
>>
>> Dave K4JRB
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 12:02:18 -0500
> From: k2qmf at juno.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
> To: towertalk at n4zkf.com
> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <20101124.090313.954.69251 at mailpop03.vgs.untd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>
> Dave,
>
> I have the answer to "your" problems...
>
> Don't do business with MFJ.... Very simple.
>
> Ted
>
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:49:32 -0500 "n4zkf" <towertalk at n4zkf.com> writes:
>> A Chevrolet Corvette is in my garage and they are nowhere close to
>> it! I
>> have NEVER, I repeat NEVER bought an MFJ product EVER
>> that I didn't have an issue with. EVER. That's the facts.
>>
>> I blame it on myself for giving them chances of which now I would
>> never do
>> again. I wouldn't order a screw from them. Did I say NEVER?
>>
>> They have NO response, NO quality, NO customer service. No
>> hostility, just
>> facts.
>>
>>
>> n4zkf Dave
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> k2qmf at juno.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:32 AM
>> To: n7mal at citlink.net
>> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
>>
>> Mal,
>>
>> I don't understand your hostility against MFJ???
>>
>> I have had many dealings with them and Hy-Gain and they were always
>> responsive and very helpful!!
>>
>> As far as product quality, I'm sure that they cut corners in order
>> to
>> produce a cost effective product line but they do correct any
>> problems, you
>> may have, quickly and at their expense.....
>>
>> They're not the Cadillac of our hobby but they sure are the
>> Chevrolet..
>>
>> What's in your garage???
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:19:18 -0000 "N7mal" <n7mal at citlink.net>
>> writes:
>> > NO NO Jim that won't fly any longer. 20 years ago that was the
>> excuse
>> > for them. They were new etc etc etc. It is now 20 years later and
>> the
>> > same garbage is coming from Mississippi. Just because they have
>> > acquired
>> >
>> > Cushcraft and Hy Gain they haven't addressed the major problem
>> with
>> > MFJ, they still produce garbage.
>> > 20 years ago I met Martin and thought he was an OK guy, I was in
>> the
>> >
>> > Electronics industry then. I thought once he got his act together
>> he
>> > would be a good solid business. Well it's now 20 years later and
>> there
>> > has been no change in that company.
>> > Sorry to be so blunt but that's just the facts.
>> > 73
>> >
>> >
>> > MAL
>> > N7MAL
>> > BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
>> > http://www.n7mal.com
>> > Everyone in the world is
>> > entitled to be burdened
>> > by my opinion
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Jim Thomson
>> > To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 04:33
>> > Subject: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
>> >
>> >
>> > Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:05:05 -0500
>> > From: "David Thompson" <thompson at mindspring.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cushcraft Parts from MFJ
>> >
>> > Come on gang lighten up.
>> >
>> > MFJ is still a small company. Martin Jue and Steve Pan (the
>> > management) are
>> > trying to do a good job. I am surprised that with all the
>> > acquisitions they are able to keep up.
>> >
>> > ## I find that hard to believe...after looking through the entire
>>
>> > mfj/ameritron catalog.....it's huge. MFJ has been around for a
>> LONG
>> > time. How many decades does it take em..to 'figure it all out'
>> ?
>> > Why are they still selling crap, like BN-86 baluns ? If they
>> > improved
>> > just
>> > some of the products..and dumped the rest, they would spend way
>> less
>> > time dealing with angry end users on the phone...and resulting
>> > warranty issues.
>> > Think abt it. Why would you want to offer 16 x diffrent types of
>> ant
>> > tuners ?
>> > Why not just make 1-3..that actually work ? One simple
>> tuner..minus
>> > the
>> > metering
>> > is all anybody wants. Nobody needs a dummy load, with a built
>> in..
>> > has been
>> > wattmeter.
>> > Just build one dummy load, sans metering.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I sold an MFJ tuner to a fellow in Memphis and UPS put a forklift
>>
>> > through the box and KOed the meter. MFJ fixed that I sent the
>> tuner
>> > back to the fellow in two weeks. I helped a fellow overseas get
>> parts
>> > for his
>> > TH-11
>> > which he got very quickly.
>> >
>> > Compared to Mosley and Idiom Press they run a good ship.
>> >
>> > ## IMO, Mosley has no clue whatsoever, about how to build an
>> > antenna,
>> > any antenna. Mosley still drones on about.."establishing
>> > resonance".... and
>> > '52 ohms'. Equal spaced monobanders went the way of the do-do
>> > bird back
>> > in the
>> > late 80's. How mosley and wilson managed to build hair pin /
>> > matching
>> > networks,
>> > that work on 20-15-10m is beyond me. The secret of course, is
>> the
>> > trap's
>> > used have
>> > such a high R component to em.. that when added to the feedpoint
>> Z,
>> > they end up closer to 50 ohms..and it's one big fudge.....swr
>> wise.
>> >
>> > ## ever seen a 175 lb Telrex 20m yagi ? 6 x equal spaced els
>> on
>> > a 46'
>> > boom. They
>> > didn't......'get it' either....and went outa business. That
>> mystery
>> > black [sealed] black balun box that telrex built for their
>> tribanders
>> > is a real hoot......
>> > after you
>> > cut one open with a
>> > band saw. You will gag.
>> >
>> > Later... Jim VE7RF
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave K4JRB
>> >
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