[TowerTalk] soldering radials (or any outdoor connection)

Mel Whitten mel at melwhitten.com
Sun Apr 3 09:54:31 PDT 2011


I've read that lead was the downfall of the roman empire due to their
drinking out of lead containers which caused brain damage and in turn
resulted in bad decisions on the battle field. Sorry, little off topic. :-)
Mel, k0pfx


-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill Aycock
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:22 PM
To: David Gilbert; towertalk at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] soldering radials (or any outdoor connection)

David--
Your last sentence here is true, but has nothing to do with degradation 
of wire joints. Lead is forbidden in water pipes because it tends to 
leach into the water, and is a poison. Lead particularly causes brain 
damage in developing children. That's why lead is also forbidden in paint.
The response of lead solder is a wide-range variable, and is affected by 
soil and air conditions, so there will be wide differences in experience 
on its durability.
Bill--W4BSG

On 3/24/2011 11:34 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
> Moisture is a big issue for standard lead-tin solder and over time it
> can degrade a typical solder joint to the point of failure, although I'm
> sure it also depends upon other chemical influences.  Whether that would
> happen in any of our remaining lifetimes is a point of conjecture.
> There is a reason, however, that lead-tin solder does not meet code for
> soldering copper water plumbing.
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> On 3/24/2011 6:02 AM, David Jordan wrote:
>> Hmmmm,
>>
>> I've had some wire antennas up in the air for over 20 yrs.  Used
rosin-core
>> solder.  Surface looks weathered but below the surface the solder is
stable,
>> connection good.  Location is high acid, salt, blown sand/dust,
relatively
>> high pollution.  YMMV
>>
>> I use silver solder on pressurized copper tubing HVAC connections but
don't
>> waste it on antennas and the melt temperature is higher risking
compromise
>> of the small wires.  Never saw the need to use silver solder for antennas
so
>> I guess preferred is in the eye of the beholder, as in hold still so I
can
>> get a good solder joint!
>>
>> 73,
>> Dave
>> Wa3gin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of don daso
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:39 PM
>> To: TowerTalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] soldering radials (or any outdoor connection)
>>
>> The preferred method is to use Silver Solder.
>>
>>
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