[TowerTalk] Cost effective Tower height

W0MU Mike Fatchett w0mu at w0mu.com
Sat Dec 3 21:02:07 PST 2011


I am not sure that is saying a whole lot Hi!

I meant to add that I would buy a 3 or 4 element for the top of the 
tower...Not a two.

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


On 12/3/2011 9:44 PM, Jim Chaggaris wrote:
> "The F/B on the Hex is not great"
>
> It is adequate for what it is, a 2 element shortened wire beam.  However, it
> still has better FB than a Steppir on 10M<grin>.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jim N9WW
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 6:43 PM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cost effective Tower height
>
> The Hex is a 2 element antenna.  We used one at J6 and from there it was
> more than adequate.  It was similar to a 2 element SteppIR.  If you
> could get a 3 or 4 element beam I think you would be happier.  The F/B
> on the Hex is not great.  They are nearly as expensive as a SteppIR but
> you have invested a lot of money in a crankup why not splurge a bit and
> get a better antenna.  If you want something on 6m either get a
> monobander from M2 or a STeppIR with the 6m passive elements.  The
> SteppIR works great on 6-20 or 30/40 so you can have 6-40 on one antenna.
>
> Mike W0MU
>
> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>
>
> On 12/3/2011 4:30 PM, dotravel at aol.com wrote:
>> Wayne, the ridge should give you additional gain especially in the area
> that slopes away from your antenna site and that is a good thing.
>> If I were you I'd consider using a beam with more gain than the HEX. The
> HEX is a wonderful antenna but gain and pattern are not its strong points.
>> If you do use the HEX beam I'd suggest not ordering it with the 6m element
> because it is nearly ussless compared to even a small 3 element yagi.
>> If you are ordering the HEX with the 6m wire you must be interested in
> that band and it is a wonderful band so you may seriously want to consider
> starting with a good 6m Yagi like the one from M2 -- still small enough to
> be light and still have a  low wind load yet be much more effective compared
> to the HEX 6m element --- you won't regret the upgrade to a real 6m yagi
> once the 6m season starts or even now when folks are working ZLs on 6m via
> F2.
>> If you go with the HEX,  the M2 6m Yagi will fit nicely at the base of the
> mast just above the rotor.
>> Regards, John NA6L
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wayne Crawford<resopkr at aol.com>
>> To: towertalk<towertalk at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 8:41 am
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Cost effective Tower height
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>> One of the parameters mentioned here has been towers on flat ground. What
> effect
>> oes unlevel ground/elevation have on this? I live in the Mtn.s of VA. My
>> levation is appox. 1400 ft and I live on top of a ridge that has a clear
> 360
>> egree view of the area. There are some ridges in view that are above my
>> levation but they are far enough away that they should not be a factor.  I
> am
>> n the process of installing a 72ft free standing (US tower TX-472) crank
> up
>> ith a 10 ft mast. Antenna will be a multiband Hex 20m-6m. The only close
>> bsticle (Across the road from my tower) is a Water tank that is 32ft high.
>> Thoughts? Advice?
>> Wayne C.
>> V4L
>>
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