[TowerTalk] Radiation Hazard !

Thu May 19 20:22:30 PDT 2011

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     For more on pseudo-science, read Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World - 
Science as a Candle in the Dark."


73 e
Gene Smar  AD3F


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Gilbert" <xdavid at cis-broadband.com>
To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Radiation Hazard !


>
> Technical arguments aren't likely to have much influence on people who
> believe in ghosts (as roughly 30% of the U.S. population reputedly does)
> or who buy things like iRenew bracelets (check your local spam folder)
> and magnetic mattresses (*http://tinyurl.com/3z62byt) *at great
> expense.  The older I get the less I realize I know, but the more
> cynical I become about the objectivity and reasoning power of the human
> race.
>
> Good luck, though.
>
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> On 5/19/2011 2:09 AM, Jim Thomson wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 20:02:35 +0200
>> From: F5vjc<foxfive.vjc at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Radiation Hazard !
>> To: TowerTalk at contesting.com
>> Message-ID:<BANLkTin-_c6V48bwRKxdkUK7EAVX9=KTvg at mail.gmail.com>
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>> Does anyone know of an online article or other easily read material
>> suitable for the lay person (Joe public) who is completely against all
>> visible antennas or masts used for radio transmission on the grounds
>> of harmful electromagnetic radiation?
>>
>> Naturally it should present Amateur Radio in a fair and favourable light.
>>
>> 73, Deni
>> F5VJC
>>
>> ## I use that online software program from, I think it's the University 
>> of
>> Wisconsin.  Just plug in the height, gain of ant, freq, AVERAGE power 
>> level, duty
>> cycle etc, and it spits out asap, if you are compliant or not.
>>
>> ##  So what's the deal?   Visible ant's are a ...'no-no'   but  hidden 
>> ant's are ..."ok" .
>> There have been umpteen thousands  of studies done to date..and not one 
>> of them
>> proves ill effects  if you are compliant.  I have been to several town 
>> hall meetings...and
>> you should see the crap the public buys  into.  It's all pseudo junk 
>> science at best.
>> The only way you are going to get cancer is from gamma rays, x-rays, or 
>> solar radiation from
>> the sun.    You can stick a rat  into a microwave oven and turn it on 
>> full blast for 20 mins..and the
>> rat will die.....but it didn't die from cancer.   Women are at these town 
>> hall meeting's, in tears, and all
>> 300 x folks in the room get emotional, and wind each other up.
>>
>> ##  I find it amusing that the public is all up in arms  about.."death 
>> rays"  from ants..... and cell
>> tower's  yet  have no problems taking with their cell phones..held right 
>> up to their ear !
>>
>> ## just do a google on evils of radio  tower's and ant's..and you will 
>> get an earful.   I just saw one
>> the other day that stated .... "ham radio ants  cause cancer"
>>
>> ##  most fed gov's  don't even read the comments from city hall and it's 
>> citizens anymore..they all
>> end up in the shredder.  Our regulator  just wan't to know if the 
>> proposed TX radio and ant's  is
>> compliant or not.  No cell co is about to the make a proposal that's not 
>> compliant so it's a moot  point.
>>
>> ##  I have been accused of  everything from .."pumping out death rays, 
>> gamma ray's, you name it".
>> Property values  will diminish, I will also attract lightning, folks will 
>> get internet drop off's, the sky will
>> fall in, and life will end as we know it.   I'm amazed at how folks with 
>> university education can buy into this
>> nonsense.  I live very close to the local university  with 10,000 
>> students and staff..with profs up and down
>> my street.   They believe  anything and everything they read on the 
>> internet....it's a real hoot.
>>
>> ##  we even have a local group here in town... " citizens coalition 
>> against electromagnetic RADIATION"
>> Now the fellow who runs this outfit is a real piece of work..a complete 
>> idiot.   But he seems  to get himself into
>> the local newspaper once in a while....which just adds  to 
>> his....'credibility'.   He has this small loop ant he built...which
>> he then plugs into his  Fluke DVM..and goes around  measuring ..'level of 
>> radiation'   from  various cell sites..and telco
>> sites.  We had a point to point microwave shot from the local telco 
>> office to the local horse race track, just north of me.
>> It was used in the summer only,  so folks could place live bets   on 
>> horse's from other tacks 75 miles away.   It was just
>> a big, real time, video and gaming feed.   The local nutcase gets his ix 
>> on page 1 of the paper... outside the fence at work...
>> "measuring" the levels of the .."death rays"   from our  tiny 12"  diam 
>> microwave dish..which has the sides  built up to
>> eliminate side lobes, etc.  The thing only runs a fraction of a watt..and 
>> is about as narrow as a search light..and halfway
>> up the tower.   It's  SHUT OFF 9 x month's  of the year.    I pointed 
>> out to the local bozo, that the point to point  circuit was in the
>> 'OFF'   mode for the winter...so asked him exactly what he thought he was 
>> measuring.   Too late, he had already made front page
>> news with his  ..."findings" .   Of course, the public reads this junk 
>> science..and swallows all of it.
>>
>> ###  BTW.. booze is good for you now.....it contains  no trans-fats.
>>
>> Later... Jim  VE7RF
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