[TowerTalk] FW: Vertical comparison question

[Dan Schaaf]

I posted earlier on this subject that I have a HyGain AV-640 which I really 
love.

I just saw in the new HyGain/MFJ catalog today and they now have a HyGain 
AV-680 which covers all bands from 6 through 80/75. Yes, because it is short 
on 80 it will have a narrow band segment, but, still, I could be comfortable 
setting it for the CW or RTTY segment of 80 and be happy not having SSB. 
Certainly no worse than a mobile 80 meter screwdriver antenna and probably 
lots better since the AV line is not base loaded like mobile antennas.

I am going to call Tom at HyGain and find out if I can simply buy the 
resonator for 75/80 and add it on to my 640. According to the catalog, the 
height is only 6 inches more than the AV-640 ( probably due to the length of 
the 80 meter resonator.

I had asked them many times a few years ago about extending the antenna to 
80 but there seemed to be no interest.



Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
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-----Original Message----- 
From: David C. Cole
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 11:33 AM
To: towertalk at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FW: Vertical comparison question

Hi,
I have a Gap Challenger, and the report on the antenna below would apply
with the exception of the frequencies mentioned...  The Challenger does
best on 40 and 20 in my case.  I have a more in depth review of it at:
http://nk7z.net/category/info/reviews/antenna-reviews/
It is the third review down from the top...

-- 
73's and Thanks,
Dave
http://www.nk7z.net for equipment reviews, propagation, and more...



On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 01:09 -0500, KM5VI wrote:
> My experience with Gap is that they generally offer the potential for the
> lower wave angle of a vertical design but really have no gain unless you 
> are
> over very conductive ground (like saltwater conductive).   They basically
> operate as vertical dipoles.  I found the Titan to work best on 20m & 15m,
> it is not very efficient on 40m and only marginal on 80m.  I found the
> Voyager worked best on 40m & 80m.
>
> KM5VI
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> John
> G.
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 8:57 PM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com; DX-IS at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Vertical comparison question
>
> How do the "radialless" verticals, like the R5, R7000, MA5V, Gap ones,
> compare in performance to the standard 1/4 wave verticals that are roof
> mounted with radials?  Does one tend to outperform the other?  I am 
> looking
> how each performs for DXing and longer haul communications.
>
> 73 John AF5CC
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