[TowerTalk] Comparing K9AY Loop and KB7GF Shared Apex LoopArray?

Dan Schaaf dan-schaaf at att.net
Tue Aug 13 19:17:22 EDT 2013


N4IS in Miami uses a Waller Flag. It has -50 db gain or approximately. 
Therefore it needs lots of amplification. However, he DOES hear the DX on 
160. Hears very well. Check his website http://qrz.com/db/N4IS   and 
http://www.n4is.com/

He is on a city lot or maybe slightly larger. It seems that the concept of 
the waller flag is about the same as the SAL concept, just different shape.



Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Richard Solomon
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:20 PM
To: Tower Talk
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Comparing K9AY Loop and KB7GF Shared Apex 
LoopArray?

>From the data I see, it looks like you need a lot of gain if
you want to use it on 160.

I have a Waller Flag in the works, looking forward to
seeing how it plays versus the Pennant I have up.

73, Dick, W1KSZ


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:

>
> Actually to get useful information search for KB7GF ... and you will
> see the QEX and QST articles, plus a couple other publications
> detailing the Shared Apex Loop.  One can also check October 2012 QST
> if it is on the shelf in your shack.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 8/13/2013 10:55 AM, Patrick Greenlee wrote:
>
>> I spared no expense, labor, or time consuming research to find this ==>
>> http://www.arraysolutions.com/**Products/sal_array.htm<http://www.arraysolutions.com/Products/sal_array.htm>
>>
>> My secret?  Google on "SAL antenna"  Pretty clever huh?
>>
>> Patrick AF5CK ;) ;)
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Bob K6UJ
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:21 AM
>> To: TOWERTALK at contesting.com reflector
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Comparing K9AY Loop and KB7GF Shared Apex
>> LoopArray?
>>
>> Excuse my ignorance but what is a SAL array ?  Where can I find info ?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Bob
>> K6UJ
>>
>>
>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:45 PM, John Holmes wrote:
>>
>>  All,
>>> I am debating whether to purchase the SAL or the K9AY Loop. Has
>>> anybody done
>>> an actual comparison? I have been told that the SAL system definitely
>>> outperforms the K9AY Loop.
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> John W9ILY
>>> Metro DX Club
>>> Sponsor of the DX WUST Award
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>>>
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