[TowerTalk] Tower Jack?
K8RI
K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net
Fri Jun 14 23:18:21 EDT 2013
On 6/14/2013 8:04 PM, Richard Solomon wrote:
> In the United States <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States>, under
> current patent law <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_patent_law>,
> the *term of patent*, provided that maintenance
> fees<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maintenance_fee_%28patent%29>are
> paid on time, are:
>
> - For applications
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_application>filed on or after
> June 8, 1995,<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_patent_in_the_United_States#cite_note-1>the
> patent term is 20 years from the filing date of the earliest U.S.
> application to which priority is claimed (excluding provisional
> applications).<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_patent_in_the_United_States#cite_note-2>
> - For applications filed before June 8, 1995 and for patents that were
> still in force on June 8, 1995, the patent term is either 17 years from the
> issue date or 20 years from the filing date of the earliest U.S. or
> international (PCT<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_Cooperation_Treaty>)
> application to which priority is claimed (excluding provisional
> applications), the longer term
> applying.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_patent_in_the_United_States#cite_note-3><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_patent_in_the_United_States#cite_note-4>
>
> The patent term <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_patent> in the United
> States was changed in 1995 to bring U.S. patent law into conformity with
> the World Trade
> Organization<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization>'s
> Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property
> Rights<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_Trade-Related_Aspects_of_Intellectual_Property_Rights>(TRIPs)
> as negotiated in the Uruguay
> Round <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay_Round>. As a side effect, it is
> no longer possible to maintain submarine
> patents<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_patent>in the U.S.,
> since the patent term now depends on the priority date, not
> the issue date.
>
> Design patents <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_patent>, unlike utility
> patents, have a term of 14 years from the date of issue
>
>
> From this, I can only assume that the Patent is no longer in force.
>
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_patent_in_the_United_States#cite_note-5>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Larry <lknain at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Patents are renewable if I recall. I don't know if they changed when they
>> changed trademarks. Trademarks are good as long as the owner is still alive
>> and other rules (used to be 28 years and renewable once). I have lost touch
>> with the IP law stuff.
>>
>> 73, Larry W6NWS
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Drax Felton
>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:00 PM
>> To: Jon Pearl - W4ABC
>> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com ; Jim Lux
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower Jack?
>>
>> Patents are only good for 18 years. Surely this thing is out by now.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Jon Pearl - W4ABC <jonpearl at tampabay.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 6/14/2013 10:23 AM, Jim Lux wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it patented? Or require some unusual fabrication?
If you want to build one for your own use, patents allow that, you just
can't sell them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently it's patented: http://www.superiormusic.com/**towerjack.htm<http://www.superiormusic.com/towerjack.htm>
>>>
>>> *NOTICE !! /Tower Jack/ Products are patented under several United States
>>> patents.
>>> Manufacturing and selling of these products by anyone other than
>>> Tower Jack Products of Mt. Juliet, TN is _strictly illegal_.*
It used to be, first designed/used, now it's first applied for the
patent, regardless of who developed one first.
The only out is if something is considered a logical outcome for anyone
who would build one. That's not phrased quite right, but close.
Many old patents are being thrown out because the design is too logical,
or intuitive. The SCOTUS is dealing with a number of these at present.
I think this one is probably safe.
73
Roger (K8RI)
>>>
>>> I actually found a larger 'entire' picture on fleabay:
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rohn-**type-tower-install-removal-**
>>> tool-leg-alignment-jack-heavy-**duty-radio-ham-/271216494401<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rohn-type-tower-install-removal-tool-leg-alignment-jack-heavy-duty-radio-ham-/271216494401>
>>>
>>> From the pictures I've seen, it seems that almost any metal fabrication
>>>> shop could crank them out. Maybe not for the same price, but it sure
>>>> doesn't look like it would be hard to make them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> One would guess that if your intention is not to sell them, you could
>>> 'one-off' a copy.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>
>>> Jon Pearl - W4ABC
>>> www.w4abc.com
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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