[TowerTalk] HF2V Elevated or On Ground

[GARY HUBER]

I have 4 twelve foot wires as the Top Hat (umbrella) with weed trimmer line 
as the remainder for guy lines on my HF-2V. The top (40 meter) coil is 
completely collapsed and shorted out on my HF-2V using the Top Hat.  I have 
the 160 meter mod kit on my HF-2V and two dozen 66 foot radials. The soil 
condition is thirty inches of glacial moraine pond bottom black muck over 
water bearing clay and septic leach field. The top loaded HF-2V has been my 
only 160 - 80 - 40 transmit antenna for DXing for twenty-seven  years and 
its worked.

73 ES DX,
Gary -- AB9M

-----Original Message----- 
From: Michael Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:25 PM
To: Mike & Coreen Smith VE9AA
Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HF2V Elevated or On Ground

I have an HF-2V ground mounted with 32 - 40 foot radials under it.  When I
went from 16 to 32 radials, 80 became significantly more touchy to tune.
That said, it works very well on 40 and 80 into EU.

This weekend I plan to add 4 -12 foot wires for a top hat for 80.
According to Bencher, it will improve performance on 80 as well as a
little more bandwidth.  Anyone tried this?

Thanks

Mike - KI8R


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Mike & Coreen Smith VE9AA <
ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>
>
> James,
>
>
>
> I recently installed an HF9V at around 8' AGL.  I use 2 elevated
> "ground"(counterpoise) radials per band, sloping from 8' down to about 5'
> AGL.
>
> I find it works VERY well on 40m and up and adequate on 80m.
>
> Over the past month, I've compared it to a host of other wire antennas at
> similar heights and always found the Butternut to be as good or better
>
> than anything else in the yard here.  I believe the raised radials have
> less
> loss, but it was twitchy to tune.  An HF2V ought to be a cake-walk to 
> tune.
>
>
>
> It's just my opinion that using only a few ground radials is lossy and
> that's why everyone preaches ground mounting it. (a lot easier to tune w/
> better/wide 2:1 SWR curves) (I use the term "better", but I don't really
> mean better, but it is better for the match, but I think it's like dumping
> power into the ground to heat worms.)
>
>
>
> So far I have around 2500 Q's with it, contesting every weekend and I am
> sure it works well , raised up like it is.
>
>
>
> p.s.- subscribe to the Yahoo group for Butternut antennas and then check
> the
> files section for "VE9AA" or "AD5X".a couple good ideas
>
> how to get the whole 80m band out of the antenna.
>
>
>
> YMMV,
>
>
>
> 73 Mike VE9AA, NB
>
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