[TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 130, Issue 28

Mon Oct 14 12:34:55 EDT 2013

I would not hesitate to mechanically attach it to the ground rod does 
not have to be anything fancy I would just fab something that permits as 
much material touching the rod as is possible by that I mean use as much 
of the 2"width as you can . John Molenda kb2huk
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>     1. Re: HG-70HD tower (EZ Rhino)
>     2. M2 40M3L tuning????? (Tim Wininger)
>     3. Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod (Ray Benny)
>     4. Re: Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod (EZ Rhino)
>     5. Re: Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod (Scott)
>     6. Re: Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod (Jorge Diez - CX6VM)
>     7. Re: Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod (Drax Felton)
>     8. Re: Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod (Jorge Diez - CX6VM)
>     9. Re: Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod (Gary K9GS)
>    10. Re: Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod (john at kk9a.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 13:27:04 -0600
> From: EZ Rhino <EZRhino at fastmovers.biz>
> To: Nick Pittner <Goodsonrd at netwalk.com>
> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HG-70HD tower
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> Lay it over horizontally and extend it on a flat surface using some rolling implements of some sort.  I don't think you want to fully disassemble it, waaaay too much work.
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> Chris
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> On Oct 13, 2013, at 8:48 , Nick Pittner wrote:
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> TT Gang,
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>                I have a Hy-Gain 70' crank-up tower, (Model HG-70HD), new in '85.  The plan is to paint it with cold galvanizing paint and replace the cable.  Here's the problem.  There are welded stops at the bottom of each section, and there appear to be stops on the vertical side as well.  If that is the case, disassembly of the tower sections appears impossible.  How do you get access to the sections to paint them, short of spray-painting the nested tower?
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>                If any of you have dealt with this issue, please let me know.  Thanks in advance for your help.
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> Nick, K8NAP
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> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 15:52:00 -0500
> From: Tim Wininger <ky5rtim at gmail.com>
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] M2 40M3L tuning?????
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> Getting ready to receive a new M2 40M3L 40mtr yagi.
> Need anyone who has one in the air or owned one in the past
> to explain how you got adjusted to the part of the band you wanted.
> Instruction manual gives info but apparently it's not to be relied upon.
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> Will be at 75ft with no other antennas on tower. 100 ft plus from any other
> tower/antenna.
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> Much appreciated,
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> Tim , KT4TX
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>     Roll Tide
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 14:47:23 -0700
> From: Ray Benny <rayn6vr at cableone.net>
> To: TowerTalk <TowerTalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod
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> Has anyone come up with a way to connect flat copper straps to ground rods?
> DXXE sells copper clamps w/ hardware, but at $35 a pop, I hoping that there
> is a more reasonable way to get the job done.
>
> My copper strap is 2" wide, by 6ft, and about 18 ga, but not sure.
>
> Tnx,
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> Ray,
> N6VR
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 15:50:21 -0600
> From: EZ Rhino <EZRhino at fastmovers.biz>
> To: Ray Benny <rayn6vr at cableone.net>
> Cc: TowerTalk <TowerTalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod
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> http://www.kf7p.com/KF7P/GroundRodClamps.html
> Same thing better price.
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> Chris
> KF7P
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> On Oct 13, 2013, at 15:47 , Ray Benny wrote:
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> Has anyone come up with a way to connect flat copper straps to ground rods?
> DXXE sells copper clamps w/ hardware, but at $35 a pop, I hoping that there
> is a more reasonable way to get the job done.
>
> My copper strap is 2" wide, by 6ft, and about 18 ga, but not sure.
>
> Tnx,
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> Ray,
> N6VR
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:03:37 -0400
> From: Scott <scottw3tx at verizon.net>
> To: Ray Benny <rayn6vr at cableone.net>
> Cc: TowerTalk <TowerTalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod
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> Hello Ray,
>
> The grounding system is definately not a place to skimp. Its what protects your radios, and really your entire home, from lightning. My tower gets hit directly on average three times a year (a hill off of lake erie). Yet i have never lost a single component. Ever. Thats the value of a good ground system.
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> I recommend buying the Polyphasor grounding book. It will tell you exactly how to install a great system including the most important part - a single point ground.  You are on the right track with copper strap and ground rods. DXE carries Polyphasor parts and their parts and service are excellent. Another source to compare costs is Harger.
>
> Best regards,
> Scott W3TX
>
> On Oct 13, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Ray Benny <rayn6vr at cableone.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone come up with a way to connect flat copper straps to ground rods?
> DXXE sells copper clamps w/ hardware, but at $35 a pop, I hoping that there
> is a more reasonable way to get the job done.
>
> My copper strap is 2" wide, by 6ft, and about 18 ga, but not sure.
>
> Tnx,
>
> Ray,
> N6VR
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:29:52 -0200
> From: "Jorge Diez - CX6VM" <cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com>
> To: "'Scott'" <scottw3tx at verizon.net>
> Cc: 'TowerTalk' <TowerTalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod
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> A good ground system is nice, and expensive. Is there any way to reduce
> cost, por example, may I connect 2 or 3 rotor control lines (5 wires each)
> to a single Polyphaser IS-RCT?  So 2-3 wires will be connected to the same
> terminal of the IS-RCT?
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] En nombre de Scott
> Enviado el: domingo, 13 de octubre de 2013 08:04 p.m.
> Para: Ray Benny
> CC: TowerTalk
> Asunto: Re: [TowerTalk] Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod
>
> Hello Ray,
>
> The grounding system is definately not a place to skimp. Its what protects
> your radios, and really your entire home, from lightning. My tower gets hit
> directly on average three times a year (a hill off of lake erie). Yet i have
> never lost a single component. Ever. Thats the value of a good ground
> system.
>
> I recommend buying the Polyphasor grounding book. It will tell you exactly
> how to install a great system including the most important part - a single
> point ground.  You are on the right track with copper strap and ground rods.
> DXE carries Polyphasor parts and their parts and service are excellent.
> Another source to compare costs is Harger.
>
> Best regards,
> Scott W3TX
>
> On Oct 13, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Ray Benny <rayn6vr at cableone.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone come up with a way to connect flat copper straps to ground rods?
> DXXE sells copper clamps w/ hardware, but at $35 a pop, I hoping that there
> is a more reasonable way to get the job done.
>
> My copper strap is 2" wide, by 6ft, and about 18 ga, but not sure.
>
> Tnx,
>
> Ray,
> N6VR
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:42:53 -0400
> From: "Drax Felton" <draxfelton at gmail.com>
> To: "'Jorge Diez - CX6VM'" <cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com>
> Cc: 'TowerTalk' <TowerTalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod
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> No you cannot do that.  The device basically monitors each of the colored
> wires for too high a voltage and shorts it to ground if it's too high.
> It would be the same as trying to share the same cable with multiple rotors
> the way the device hooks up.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jorge
> Diez - CX6VM
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:30 PM
> To: 'Scott'
> Cc: 'TowerTalk'
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod
>
> A good ground system is nice, and expensive. Is there any way to reduce
> cost, por example, may I connect 2 or 3 rotor control lines (5 wires each)
> to a single Polyphaser IS-RCT?  So 2-3 wires will be connected to the same
> terminal of the IS-RCT?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 21:00:45 -0200
> From: "Jorge Diez - CX6VM" <cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com>
> To: "'Drax Felton'" <draxfelton at gmail.com>
> Cc: 'TowerTalk' <TowerTalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod
> Message-ID: <525b2624.899eec0a.5ae8.4841 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
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> Thanks Drax
>
> There?s too much $$$ difference for example between 3 x IS-RCT (for 3
> rotors) and 1 x 16 terminal ArraySolutions cable arrestor (for 3 rotors). I
> think they do the same.
>
> 73,
> Jorge
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Drax Felton [mailto:draxfelton at gmail.com]
> Enviado el: domingo, 13 de octubre de 2013 08:43 p.m.
> Para: 'Jorge Diez - CX6VM'
> CC: 'TowerTalk'
> Asunto: RE: [TowerTalk] Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod
>
> No you cannot do that.  The device basically monitors each of the colored
> wires for too high a voltage and shorts it to ground if it's too high.
> It would be the same as trying to share the same cable with multiple rotors
> the way the device hooks up.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jorge
> Diez - CX6VM
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:30 PM
> To: 'Scott'
> Cc: 'TowerTalk'
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod
>
> A good ground system is nice, and expensive. Is there any way to reduce
> cost, por example, may I connect 2 or 3 rotor control lines (5 wires each)
> to a single Polyphaser IS-RCT?  So 2-3 wires will be connected to the same
> terminal of the IS-RCT?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:01:54 -0500
> From: Gary K9GS <garyk9gs at wi.rr.com>
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Connecting Flat Copper to 5/8" Ground Rod
> Message-ID: <525B2662.8010403 at wi.rr.com>
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> I highlu recommens KF7P Metalworks.
>
> http://www.kf7p.com/KF7P/GroundRodClamps.html
>
> I just ordered some ground rod clamps last week.  They are at my office
> so I haven't seem them yet but if the quality is anything like the
> customer service they will be great.
>
>
>
> On 10/13/2013 4:47 PM, Ray Benny wrote:
>> Has anyone come up with a way to connect flat copper straps to ground rods?
>> DXXE sells copper clamps w/ hardware, but at $35 a pop, I hoping that there
>> is a more reasonable way to get the job done.
>>
>> My copper strap is 2" wide, by 6ft, and about 18 ga, but not sure.
>>
>> Tnx,
>>
>> Ray,
>> N6VR
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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