[TowerTalk] minimum guy radius

[Roger (K8RI) on TT]

On 10/31/2013 7:10 PM, Mike Fahmie wrote:
> Didn't this kinda minimize the gains of learning from your mistakes?

True, but it really helped others learn from your mistakes much more 
pointedly than our system.
It added meaning to "Don't do it this way" and unlike the Affordable 
care act, you selected your helpers/worker with care and kept them informed!

73

Roger (K8RI)


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>> From: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g at windstream.net>
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] minimum guy radius
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>> During a period of the successive evolutionary improvements of the design of
>> arches in ancient Rome it was the custom that the architect/engineer would
>> stand under the arch as the scaffold was removed.  This limited the  maximum
>> number of catastrophic failures to one per architect/engineer.  Sort of a
>> built-in Darwin award system.
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>> Patrick AF5CK
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Lux
>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:52 PM
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] minimum guy radius
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>> On 10/31/13 9:47 AM, Roger (K8RI) on TT wrote:
>>> On 10/31/2013 9:25 AM, Steve Maki wrote:
>>>> A guyed tower can be designed for closer guying than that, no problem.
>>>> Takes more steel, bigger guys, bigger anchors, and careful engineering.
>>>>
>>>> There's a 1000' TV tower near me with outer anchors at around 350'. The
>>>> wires are 3", and the tower is massive.
>>> There's a lot of variables that can't be seen.  The only spot available
>>> for a self supporting cell tower in town was the corner of a parking lot
>>> so they went 30 feet deep with the foundation.  "The odds are" if this
>>> is a commercial tower, they had to meet engineering standards.  Course
>>> every once in a while we read about something really expensive, folding
>>> up.
>>>
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>> The collapse of the pyramid at Meidum triggered a design change in all
>> subsequent pyramids, and a change in one undergoing construction (Bent
>> Pyramid at Dashur).. oops better pick a more gentle angle..
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>> These things happen.  Always have, always will.
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