[TowerTalk] New windows versus my antenna wiring

Steve steve65 at suddenlink.net
Tue Apr 8 19:34:57 EDT 2014


Lots of responses to my plea for advice, my thanks to all. Not sure what 
I will do yet but at least I have a number of options to consider. 
Several of the window replacement companies are scheduled to look at the 
job and give me estimates. I will discuss my needs with them as well.

Steve, K8JQ

On 4/7/2014 4:30 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> You'd have to invert this scheme to bring your stuff in from the top, 
> butI have apanel under a double-hung window's bottom sash, made from a 
> piece of scrap aluminum framed in wood.  I had a storm window made to 
> fit the gap between the top of the panel and the top of the window 
> opening, and for good measure use a piece of cylindrical foam 
> insulation intended for water pipes to close the gap between the 
> partly open bottom sash and the upper one.  It's pretty toasty, though 
> the indoor humidity does form ice on the inside of the storm window 
> during the coldest days of winter.
>
> As for security, I believe you can buy inexpensive locking devices 
> that are designed to permit having a window open a bit without 
> compromising security
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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> http://reversebeacon.net,
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> On 4/7/2014 1:02 PM, Roger (K8RI) on TT wrote:
>> On 4/7/2014 9:15 AM, Steve wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have one open wire feeder and a couple of coaxial cables coming 
>>> into my basement radio shack. Many years ago I removed the glass 
>>> from the top pane of a window and replaced the glass with 
>>> plexiglass. I drilled the plexiglass for feed thru insulators for 
>>> the open wire and holes for the coaxial cables.
>>>
>>> I would like to replace the 5 windows on that side of the house, 
>>> which includes the window with the plexiglass antenna cable 
>>> entrances. The existing wooden-frame windows with a single pane of 
>>> glass will be replaced with double-paned, energy efficient 
>>> double-hung windows.
>>
>> Were it me, and it's not, I'd use a dense foam, water proofed wood 
>> panel, or two sheets of plexiglass with feed throughs.  The window 
>> frames (holding the glass) are likely to be vinyl with no metal and 
>> should not affect the feed line.  So the spacer under it doesn't have 
>> to be tall.  We have that type, but sliding type and there is no 
>> metal in them, but YMMV.
>>
>> Any insert will defeat the locking mechanism of the window, which is 
>> minimal at best.  The old double hung with the spring loaded pins on 
>> each side were the best I've seen. It takes very little to defeat the 
>> little rotating thing on most of today's windows
>>
>> With the energy efficient windows, I'd not use a metal spacer as just 
>> a few inches will defeat the purpose of the energy efficiency. A 
>> couple strips of 1/4" plexiglass a with a half inch separation (or 
>> however wide you want), capped with the same material, top and bottom 
>> (assembled with plexiglass glue and use a piece of weather stripping 
>> top and bottom.    It doesn't have to be that fancy, but a piece like 
>> that shouldn't sweat, except possibly on really cold days.
>>
>> As for the gap between the lower sash and the upper window, you 
>> should be able to find weatherstripping that will fit.  I'm thinking 
>> of the kind that looks like a tube.  For that matter, you could 
>> probably find a plastic tube that fits snugly but not tight enough to 
>> stress the glass. With the price of the windows, I'd go the little 
>> extra for a proper weather seal.
>>
>> I assume you are going to hire the job done. If so, I'd ask the 
>> installer about a piece of weather stripping for the gap,
>>
>>
>> Lot's of ideas, but most (metal) defeat the purpose of the high 
>> efficiency and all that I can think of defeat the security.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Roger (K8RI)
>>
>>>
>>> How do I get my antenna wires into the house after the newer windows 
>>> are installed? The newer windows do not lend themselves to the 
>>> plexiglass scheme in use with the existing window. I would prefer 
>>> not to drill holes in the basement wall -- I want to sell this house 
>>> eventually (that's one reason for replacing the windows in the first 
>>> place).
>>>
>>> One thought I had is to lower the upper half of the new window about 
>>> a foot and insert a piece of plexiglass at the top of the window. 
>>> Buttress the upper half of the new window up against the plexiglass. 
>>> Seal as necessary with polyurethane foam insulation. One problem 
>>> with that idea is that the upper section of the window can be 
>>> lowered from the outside -- not very secure.
>>>
>>> Any ideas as to how to get my open wire feeder and a few coaxial 
>>> cables through the wall after the new windows are installed while 
>>> not damaging the walls of the house or the new window?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Steve, K8JQ
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