[TowerTalk] New windows versus my antenna wiring

Mickey Baker fishflorida at gmail.com
Wed Apr 9 12:58:51 EDT 2014

Jim has explained the optimum solution - windows are made for ventilation
and light, not for passing things through.

My house is concrete block and stucco, with rebar and a poured concrete
cap, which makes the wall solid. I used a core drill and put a small NEMA
box on the outside, a 4" PVC box on the inside. I put a piece of 2" copper
stap inside, leading to a SPG  outside, and a single ground for equipment
inside. I have 4 Bury Flex runs, a 24 conductor SteppIR control wire and an
8 conductor rotor wire. My windows are intact.

My wife would have some heartburn over the window solution.

Mickey N4MB

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014, J Chaloupka <boltsnutspins at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Go through the wall, somewhere around and away from the window for the
> least troublesome instalaton.  Mount an junction box on the exterior and
> interior.  The boxes are commercially available from stock or custom made,
> special for your purpose.
> If you have a concrete wall rent a diamond core drill bit and a right
> angle drill motor and make the hole in about 2 minutes.  For a wooden wall
> use a "sawsall" or your imagination and the tools you have available.
> If you are not feeling competant, ask the window instller to make the hole
> for you.
> JIM-wd8qbq
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>  From: Fred Keen <fredkeen at ymail.com <javascript:;>>
> To: Gene Smar <ersmar at verizon.net <javascript:;>>; "
> towertalk at contesting.com <javascript:;>" <towertalk at contesting.com<javascript:;>
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Re: Re:  New windows versus my antenna wiring
> SOME insulating glass units have argon gas, but they are in the minority.
> What insulates an insulating glass unit is the dead air space between the
> two pieces of glass.
> My 40 years experience in the glass business tells me to strongly NOT try
> and drill thru an insulated glass unit as 1. it will destroy the air seal
> and allow condensation and loose insulating value, 2. it is extremely
> difficult for even a professional craftsman to drill thru the two pieces of
> glass in an insulating unit without breakage,,,
> Why not use one of the MFJ window panels? They allow you to cut to size
> and come with foam tape to close off the edges.
> Fred
> On Monday, April 7, 2014 9:16 AM, Gene Smar <ersmar at verizon.net> wrote:
> TT:
> Trying again in plaintext.
> 73 de
> Gene Smar  AD3F
> ----------Original Message----------
> From: towertalk-owner at contesting.com
> Date: Apr 7, 2014 10:10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [TowerTalk] New windows versus my antenna wiring
> To: ersmar at verizon.net
> The message's content type was not explicitly allowed
> TT:
> If you drill through the new, energy efficient double window pane you will
> let the argon gas between the panes leak out. This gas is what provides the
> increased R value for the space between the panes. Caveat Amateur.
> 73 de
> Gene Smar AD3F
> On 04/07/14, Chester Alderman<aldermant at windstream.net> wrote:
> When I was living in Virginia, this worked excellent for me:
> At your local hardware store, find a bathroom tile hole cutter the size
> that
> your feed-thru insulators requires. Lay your double pane windows down on an
> old towel. Install the tile hole cutter in your electric drill to cut the
> holes. Do not press down on the drill but just use the weight of the drill
> itself to cut the hole, with the drill running at a very SLOW speed. If you
> do this carefully you can cut the holes and then install your insulators,
> the key is to NOT PRESS DOWN ON YOUR DRILL and you will not break the
> glass.
> Of course when it is time to sell your home, you wish remove the window and
> get that glass replaced. This worked very well for me!
> 73,
> Tom - W4BQF
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Steve
> Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 9:15 AM
> To: TowerTalk
> Subject: [TowerTalk] New windows versus my antenna wiring
> Hi all,
> I have one open wire feeder and a couple of coaxial cables coming into my
> basement radio shack. Many years ago I removed the glass from the top pane
> of a window and replaced the glass with plexiglass. I drilled the
> plexiglass
> for feed thru insulators for the open wire and holes for the coaxial
> cables.
> I would like to replace the 5 windows on that side of the house, which
> includes the window with the plexiglass antenna cable entrances. The
> existing wooden-frame windows with a single pane of glass will be replaced
> with double-paned, energy efficient double-hung windows.
> How do I get my antenna wires into the house after the newer windows are
> installed? The newer windows do not lend themselves to the plexiglass
> scheme
> in use with the existing window. I would prefer not to drill holes in the
> basement wall -- I want to sell this house eventually (that's one reason
> for
> replacing the windows in the first place).
> One thought I had is to lower the upper half of the new window about a foot
> and insert a piece of plexiglass at the top of the window. Buttress the
> upper half of the new window up against the plexiglass. Seal as necessary
> with polyurethane foam insulation. One problem with that idea is that the
> upper section of the window can be lowered from the outside
> -- not very secure.
> Any ideas as to how to get my open wire feeder and a few coaxial cables
> through the wall after the new windows are installed while not damaging the
> walls of the house or the new window?
> Thanks.
> Steve, K8JQ
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Mickey Baker, N4MB
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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