[TowerTalk] Arrestor placement
Roger (K8RI) on TT
K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net
Sun Dec 28 23:17:42 EST 2014
On 12/28/2014 11:05 PM, Roger (K8RI) on TT wrote:
One further thought: I would not place an additional arrestor at the
base of the tower where it would likely see a much higher voltage than
at the grounding plate (CPG) at the house entrance.
73
Roger (K8RI)
>
>
> I agree with David, but I've not read all of the thread.
>
> You want the arrestor as close to the thing it's protecting as
> practical. The common point ground at the station entrance is the
> best compromise. I'd phrase it a bit differently than David, but the
> result is the same. The effects of a spike coming in as induced
> voltage in the house wiring depend on a number of things. An induced
> spike will likely create a substantial spike on the power, phone,
> cable, and the antennas. You have the direction to the source, or
> lightening bolt. The induced voltages will travel a bit slower on the
> wiring than the EMP through the air. So distance and direction will
> determine the phase differences between all these conductors connected
> to the rig.
>
> The pulse "induced" into the antenna(S) from a nearby strike sees the
> coax and tower as parallel conductors while the center conductor of
> the coax acts like one plate of a very long capacitor so the voltage
> across the coax is much less at the base of the tower than at the
> top. With the coax braid grounded to the tower at the top and botton,
> both are "Earthed" at the base of the tower. With the coax between
> the tower and shack the coax agan acts like a long capacitor reducing
> the center conductor to shield even farther. This in itself reduces
> the work the arrestor has to do substantially. (Another reason for
> mounting the arrestor at the CPG.
>
> Beyond that being the best place to put the arrestor, lightening
> protection can never guarantee 100% protection. The induced voltages
> come at the rig from all directions with their phase differences and
> amplitudes varying from almost nothing to those we don't want to think
> about.
>
> Lightening protection is a crap shoot, BUT, a properly placed
> lightening arrestor along with a well laid out ground system of
> sufficient size pushes the odds in our favor. It can be substantially
> in our favor, however you soon reach the point of diminishing returns
> where where it takes a LOT invested to only give a little increase in
> protection.
>
> I had no damage from many direct strikes to the tower (17 visually
> verified strikes and who knows how many were not seen) along with
> major close strikes that did costly damage to the neighbors. The one
> was a multiple strike that hit all around me, but ignored the tower
> and rigs...BUT...Last summer a nearby strike got into my CAT 5 gigabit
> network and did major damage to several computers. I ended up
> rebuilding two BIG computers, while the router and switch were
> fried.. One was a complete rebuild from the motherboard up. The
> other, a smaller computer, but still larger than what most would have
> was a complete replacement. The one computer hooks into the station,
> but I've found no damage to the station.
>
> Unfortunately I use OEM software which meant not only new hardware,
> but new operating systems as well. The good news was the station had
> no problems, or at least none I've found so far.
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>
> On 12/27/2014 1:58 PM, David Robbins wrote:
>> Yes, it can make a big difference. Lightning arresters are NOT just
>> protecting you from a strike on your antenna. They also protect you
>> from a strike on the power line or even just to the ground nearby
>> that causes the ground system voltage to rise while the voltage on
>> the center of the coax doesn't... if the arrester is not very close
>> to the radio it delays the arrester action which can make your radio
>> the easiest path from ground to the center conductor... in hv
>> engineering terms its called a backflashover, which is caused when
>> lightning hits the ground system causing a flashover to a power
>> conductor.
>>
>> David Robbins K1TTT
>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
>> web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf
>> Of David Gallatin via TowerTalk
>> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 18:49
>> To: TowerTalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Arrestor placement
>>
>> Hello all,Somehow I have gotten the idea that one's lightning
>> arrestors are best placed at the bottom of the tower. This seems
>> logical to me. Then I came across another piece that said, no,
>> arrestors are to be placed at the shack entrance panel. Which is it?
>> Or does it matter? 73, David, AA9G
>>
>> ex W5DCG and KC9EEV
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Roger (K8RI)
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