[TowerTalk] Fwd: Tower regulations for home brew towers in the US?

Fri Feb 21 12:43:12 EST 2014

Oop's too fast on the keys ... not .."know"... , but ..."now"... .

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Richard Solomon <dickw1ksz at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> When I applied for a permit in Lexington, Mass., some years ago,
> they handed me a form that denied my permit even before I was
> done filling out the permit form.
>
> It seems most small towns outside larger cities use the permit route
> to discourage tower installation.
>
> I was told, informally, to just go ahead and put it up and hope no
> one complained.
>
> Another reason I know live in Arizona.
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:36 AM, David Robbins <k1ttt at arrl.net> wrote:
>
>> Nothing special here, in mass ham towers are exempt from most zoning
>> restrictions.  In my rural town they have never required a building permit
>> for a tower, but did for a solar panel array.
>>
>> David Robbins K1TTT
>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
>> web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
>> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Markku Oksanen
>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 17:12
>> To: Hans Hammarquist; towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Tower regulations for home brew towers in
>> the
>> US?
>>
>> ALL
>> Thanks for the informative answers. Looks like things differ so much from
>> place to place.It seems that there are couple of pretty big contest
>> stations
>> in the North East (KC1XX for one).What is the situation for large towers
>> in
>> Maine or Vermont or Massachusetts? Anybody form those states "listening"?
>> Thanks!Markku
>>
>>
>> > To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> > From: hanslg at aol.com
>> > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:15:53 -0500
>> > Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Tower regulations for home brew towers in the
>> US?
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Markku,
>> >
>> >
>> > As I have lived in both Sweden and USAI think I can give you some extra
>> insight in the mechanism erecting aradio tower in USA.
>> >
>> >
>> > USA is a country ruled by lawyers andinsurance company. That put some
>> restrictions on what you dare to do as you most likely will get sued if
>> somebody feels they can get hurt or have some other "economic impact".
>> Lately we have also seen an influence of what iscommonly called "tree
>> huggers", people that have an urge to stopanything that remotely can be
>> called "development" in the name of"saving the earth and the nature".
>> >
>> >
>> > During my time in Sweden (I moved toUSA 30 years ago) I erected many
>> antennas and whatever you needed to"get the signal out". Nobody even
>> bothered to say anything unlessit disturbed their TV reception to an
>> intolerable level.
>> >
>> >
>> > When I came here, neighbors neverbothered me with my radio
>> > experiments. I lived then in Brooklyn, NY.I still have a 30 foot mast
>> > on my roof there. (It's "grand-fathered"to stay there.)
>> >
>> >
>> > A few years ago I decided to erect a 85 foot towerin Vermont. I
>> experienced a strong resistance from neighbors thatdidn't want "their
>> horizon be disturbed by technology". 1 1/2 yearlater I had my permit. "My
>> town
>> hadn't discovered the power orrequesting a professional engineering
>> evaluation or it would have costme a lot more than the application fee.
>> >
>> >
>> > As you can see from the responses atTT, USA is a stronghold for
>> bureaucrats and "tree huggers" that know how to make life aroller-coaster
>> ride. Do what you can to keep they out of Finland. Youmanage to push out
>> both Swedes and Russians in the past. Keep up thegood work.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73 de,
>> >
>> >
>> > Hans - N2JFS/SM6BXX
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Markku Oksanen <markku.a.oksanen at kolumbus.fi>
>> > To: towertalk <towertalk at contesting.com>; Markku Oksanen
>> > <markku.a.oksanen at kolumbus.fi>
>> > Sent: Fri, Feb 21, 2014 5:24 am
>> > Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower regulations for home brew towers in the US?
>> >
>> >
>> > All
>> > Just because I am curious:
>> > Here at OH-land even large towers can be home brew just like my 160
>> > and 145 foot rotating towers.These have been made by a private small
>> > company that made perhaps 200 towers through the years.Building permit
>> > and zoning never questioned the "engineering" of the towers as the
>> > responsibility in the end rests with the owner.In addition, home owner
>> > insurance happily includes towers and covers damage without question.
>> > How is the situation in the US?  Looks like most towers are commercial
>> > (Rohn, couple others) and it seems that a "professional engineer"
>> > (correct??) needs to look at the mechanics of the whole thing in order
>> > to get a permit to put up a tower.
>> > So, how, if at all, is it possible to build your own large towers?
>> > Does anybody do this?
>> > The towers I have are 1.5 feet a side with 2 inch tubes, inverted U
>> > (0.7 inch) "cross bars".  Only guyed at two levels and full of
>> > aluminium, 8000 lb steel guy wires and ball bearing guy rings.  And
>> > they have survived some crazy storm too in the past 15 years.
>> > MarkkuOH2RA/OG2A/WW1C
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