[TowerTalk] K1550 Winch and Hazer

Les Listwa llistwa at gmail.com
Sat Jan 11 15:10:28 EST 2014

Any thoughts?

Hi All,
> I have a question. Its a long story
> I have a 40 foot self standing ( unguyed) Rohn 45G tower in 5x4x4 of
> concrete.  It is used to support a "small" EME array ( 4 x 10 on 15 foot
> booms), total weight of about  280 lbs including AZ/EL rotor, Razer, etc.)
> .      I use a custom Razer ( A Hazer type clone)  to lift the array up and
> down when not in use.  The Razer was designed with two locking legs , that
> would hold the Hazer ( Razer) in place, with pull string to release.  It
> was designed to be lifted with a 2000lb electric winch and then the two
> locking legs would hold it in place. In theory the Electric winch would
> make it easy to raise and lower the array, which I do about once per
> week... when I am not using the array.
> I found that the Electric wench could not hold the vertical load and the
> array would creep down before the locking legs could be set on one of the
> 45G's Horizontal cross bars and would get hung up on the diagonal bars  and
> do to the combination of the high tourque of the electric winch, the winch
> creep and the fact its hard to see what is going on 40 feet up in the
> air... the next think I know is I am bending the locking locking legs and
> the damn thing is stuck and I have bent the hell out of the locking legs,
> in one case, while lowering the array,  the locking legs jammed,  and the
>  the 1/8 inch cable sheared, .... luckly the array got hung up on some coax
> on the way down and was saved. A 2000 lb electric winch can do a lot of
> damage in just seconds.
> The Razor ( Hazer) has a very well built cage and is a great product, but
> between my 280lb load and the creep of a 2000 lb electric wench and the
> tight spaces to land the locking legs between the diagonal and Horizontal
> supports of the 45G. I needed a better way.
> So I  replaced the Replaced the Electric Winch, with a Fulton K1550 self
> braking winch and upgraded to 3/16 cable and better pulleys.   So now I
> have perfect control of raising the array and of course its stops on a dime
> and stays there.
> So here is my question.   The locking legs from all the previous problems
> have been bent and weakened, they still keep failing for various reasons
>  jamming the array in place, causing me to have to climb the tower and
>  manually release them ( not much fun to climb 30 or 40 feet) and defeats
> the purpose......    Since the  K1550 has is self locking and can handle
> 1500 lbs ( although it needs to be derated for a vertical load) and my load
> is only 280 lbs.   DO you think I can safely do away with using the locking
> legs  and have the array supported by the 3/16 steel cable and the K1550?
> I know the K1550 is used to lift and hold towers in place with out any
> other locking system, would it work here supporting a 280lb load?
> Sorry for the long story.
> 73
> Les

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