[TowerTalk] N6BT, Force12inc and JK Antennas

[G Reichow]

Quite a bit of input this time around. When I posed this question back
in April it was met with resounding silence. I decided that a 5 band
antenna would be the way to go in my case. The Bencher Skyhawk would
be great but I also desire a gain antenna on 12/17. That would take my
40M yagi off the tower. Having a gain antenna on 40 is a very good
thing to have. Hence the question regarding the DXr-5, etc. The new 5-
bander will replace a Tennadyne T8. If you would like to know why, I
will e-mail photo's of the antenna in its present state. That
experiment is over. Keep up the input.

Tks - Gary  (KN0V)

On 11/21/14, chetmoore <chetmoore at cox.net> wrote:
> Not much to add to what Tim said. If you are going to an 18 foot boom, as
> opposed to 10 ft or 12 foot,   why not get as many bands or elements on
> that
> boom while you are at it  Without affecting the performance on individual
> bands.  The spyder beams, hex beams are super light and can go in smaller
> carrying cases and can use lighter rotators. Spyderbeam/hex may have issues
> when permanently installed in areas where you have snow and ice but they
> seem to have done well with the more recent dxpeditions. If I was doing a
> dxpedition, spyder/hex Would seem to be the way to go.
>
> 73
>
> Chet N4fx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Duffy
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:20 AM
> To: john at kk9a.com; 'Kelly Taylor'
> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] N6BT, Force12inc and JK Antennas
>
> Hello John:
>
> I work at DX Engineering, so maybe I can help clarify a bit.
>
> You know I love antennas and I really loved the TX-38. It was a super
> performer (10 meters was really good), I used it on Field Day for two years
> with a triplexer - it was awesome! However, for the reasons several guys
> have pointed out here it did not sell well (even with deep discount
> incentives). Many guys choose the Bencher Skyhawk - a larger alternative to
> the TX-38 with more performance "bang". 8P5A and many others love the
> Skyhawk!
>
> The latest "hot" high quality 5 bander (20,17,15,12 and 10) with a 6 meter
> add on (makes it 6 bands on one short boom) is the JK NAVASSA5. You can see
> it here.
>
> http://www.dxengineering.com/parts/jka-navassa5
>
> 73,
> Tim K3LR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> john at kk9a.com
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 10:56 AM
> To: Kelly Taylor
> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] N6BT, Force12inc and JK Antennas
>
>
>
> Bummer, I was not aware that DX Engineering discontinued the TX38. I know
> that a lot of work went into optimizing this yagi for all three bands and
> it
> also had four 10m elements. I think it would have been a perfect contest
> expedition antenna.
>
> John KK9A
>
> On 2014-11-21 10:26, Kelly Taylor wrote:
>
>> The TX-38 was sold to DX Engineering and was subsequently
>> discontinued. It was expensive for only having three bands (it was
>> almost Bencher Skyhawk money), but it did look like a fabulous design,
>> particularly with four elements on 10.
>>
>> The people who were lucky enough to get one rave about it, but it
>> appears there's not enough demand for pure tribanders any more. People
>> want five bands.
>>
>> 73, kelly
>> ve4xt
>>
>> On 11/21/14 9:16 AM, "john at kk9a.com" <john at kk9a.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cycle-24's TX38 looks like it would also be a great expedition
>>> antenna
> however the original poster was looking for a five band beam. The C3 and
> the
> TX38 are not. John KK9A To: <towertalk at contesting.com> Subject: Re:
> [TowerTalk] N6BT, Force12inc and JK Antennas From: "Ed Sawyer"
> <sawyered at earthlink.net> Reply-to: sawyered at earthlink.net Date: Fri, 21 Nov
> 2014 09:18:07 -0500 The C3 is the best short boom tribander out there in my
> opinion. I have used them around the world. They are a clean pattern,
> smooth
> SWR across the full band performer. At the end of the day, the gain
> available is a function of boom length primarily. On 15 and 20, you are
> going to help yourself by stuffing another element on a short boom. On 10M,
> the argument could be made that another element would add value to this
> antenna, but the antenna works as a nice package. On 12 and 17 - its just a
> rotary dipole essentially - so if that's someone's interest, this isn't the
> antenna for you. Nice advantage for DXpeditions, you can break this baby
> down into a golf case. And there are no finicky little motors and control
> lines to worry about. 73 Ed N1UR
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