[TowerTalk] Rohn 25 Guying

[GALE STEWARD]

I've seen trees used for as guy anchors but it gives me concern. However, they seem to work well for masts that hold up wire antennas or for something temporary for a small antenna.

Last spring I had a fairly large ash tree that I found was totally rotted out in the center of the trunk, probably 40% of it. There was no sign of this issue externally.
This tree was NOT used for guying and there was nothing attached to it but I had it taken down. It's now a nice, useful pile of firewood.
73, Stew K3ND
 

      From: Kevin Stover <kevin.stover at mediacombb.net>
 To: towertalk at contesting.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 12:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rohn 25 Guying
   
Using a tree for a guy point is a really bad idea.

Example: We used to have a 70' Douglass fur in our front yard. During 
and ice storm it dropped a branch which took out the rain gutters on the 
front of the house. We filed a claim with homeowners and they paid it. 
Two weeks later we received a letter from the insurance company 
explaining that they would no longer cover any damage done to our 
property or a neighbor by that tree.

Long story short we took the tree down, at our expense, and found it to 
be hollow from the ground up to the 30' mark.

Imagine the tree being used to secure a guy wire on a tower, the tree 
comes down for whatever reason, rot, disease, too much stress and 
pulling the tower down on top of your house, or worse the neighbor's. 
It's this stuff that encourages people to get law degrees.

On 12/26/2015 7:34 PM, Wayne Kline wrote:
>  I responded to this thread B-4
>  
>  The  tree can be used but IMO will not fly with a building permit application.
>  
>    The tree anchor  with the belly band ( around the tree with a loop of EHS)  is a bad idea.
>  
> the tree grows around the back side  taught wire  making it impossible to determine  it's condition .  the lag screw !! ymmv !!!!
>  
> fixed eye anchor https://www.macleanpower.com/products/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2040
>  
> There are a few open screw thread each end with optional end choice.
>  
> as for drilling  there a drills  and extension  that will DRILL completely  THROUGH the tree  NOT around.
>  
> But  this still will not pass any building  permit situation .
>  
> Wayne W3EA


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R. Kevin Stover
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