[TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: Beverage Antenna

[Patrick Greenlee]

Grant, that is very interesting results.  I could certainly break up all 
the strands with strain insulators, the nice strong porcelain ones, and 
even at 150 or 100 ft intervals if the results would warrant.  The bad 
news is I'm afraid my fences are not pointed at much desirable 
activity.  (Boo Hoo!).  I could temporarily string a Beverage E-W and 
see what it hears.  Then if I like what I  hear I could break up a 
section of  with insulators and hang a wire above it as a more permanent 
fixture.

Thanks again for your contribution.  I wish I would have thought of 
breaking the fence up with insulators.  Well du-uh!

Patrick    NJ5G

On 2/3/2015 4:11 PM, Grant Saviers wrote:
> I did a quick EZNEC Pro/4 analysis of a Beverage over a 3 strand barb 
> wire fence, strands at 4,3,2' and antenna at 10'.  I've had one that 
> sorta worked, now I know why.
>
> 600' of fence under 600' of antenna yields a substantially degraded 
> F/B (what I experienced).
>
> 2400' of fence under 600' of antenna yields a substantially vertical 
> pattern
>
> Insulator breaks of the 600' of the 3 strands every 200' yielded a 
> 1.8Mhz pattern almost the same as no fence.  Adding a single strand of 
> continuous single fence out 600 to 1200' past both ends of the 
> Beverage had minimal pattern change.  At 3.5 and 7 Mhz the pattern 
> looses a bit of F/B but is tolerable IMO.
>
> So for a few insulators, a Beverage works over a barb wire fence. 
> Porcelain eggs would probably be the best bet for the strength needed.
>
> Chain link and welded mesh fences are best avoided unless it is worth 
> the work to insulate sections.
>
> Grant KZ1W
>
> On 2/3/2015 12:52 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>> Pat,
>>
>> 8 to 10 feet above the barbed wire fence would be your only chance if
>> you are to use the existing fence lines.  I would strongly suggest
>> reading some (all) of the references you have been offered -
>> particularly those that include long term experiments.
>>
>> My information has simply been gathered from the reports of others over
>> nearly 40 years and confirmed by the performance of the few simple
>> Beverages I've been fortunate enough to use at various times.
>>
>> The general consensus has been not to use a "ground wire" under a
>> Beverage or run it along above/parallel to a conductive wire fence.
>> Maintain at least 45 degrees and try, if at all possible, to cross
>> other antennas/conductive objects at right angles.
>>
> snip...
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