[TowerTalk] Mosley Antenna Question

Thu Feb 19 14:03:27 EST 2015

I look at it a bit differently.  He and the other DXers had experience 
and skill that the typical ham does not.  It take skill "on both ends" 
to discern that tiny difference.  You see it on FD where one ham can 
work 'em and the one beside him can't hear them. Same signal, same rig.

To get that much difference in coax, it takes cheap coax, or long runs 
for loss to get to 3db.
At 220 feet I run LMR600.  Tried, but couldn't find any 7/8th Heliax I 
could afford in the area and I needed 2 runs.

73

Roger (K8RI)

On 2/19/2015 1:49 PM, Bill Aycock wrote:
> Dick--
> You should read the Courtney post again; He was NOT the only DXer in 
> the area. In fact, he described an "A-B-C" comparison.
> Bill--W4BSG
>
> -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:05 AM
>
> From: Richard Solomon
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mosley Antenna Question
>
> Your premise might be valid if you were the only DX'er
> in the area, but when you have the competition that we
> had on the East Coast, then my statements, while not
> based on true scientific data, still are valid.
>
> The truth is in the pudding ...
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Courtney Judd <k4wi at k4wi.net> wrote:
>
>> I just have to put my 2 cents here on this subject! Back in the 70's my
>> friend and neighbor Don ... then WA4BCY, now K4UE... and I... then 
>> K4JYO,
>> now K4WI.. were busy chasing DX for new ones for our DXCC total 
>> count. Don
>> and I had identical rigs except for antennas: Drake twins and SB220 
>> amps;
>> Don had a TH6-dxx @100 ft and I had a Hygain 2 el Quad @ 100 ft. Don 
>> and I
>> usually ran neck and neck on any DX that showed up. A newbie showed 
>> up in
>> the neighbor hood and asked us for advice and he ended up with the same
>> setup except someone told him that Mosley was the best antenna to 
>> have. So
>> he put up a Mosley tribander at 100 ft. One evening Don and I were 
>> chatting
>> with KC4AA in the Antartic and the newbie broke in and asked if he could
>> make contact.... Sure, good ahead and call him.... after about 10 
>> attempts
>> by him the KC4 asked if the caller was using a wet noodle for an 
>> antenna as
>> he could not hear a peep from the WB4. I guess that made him feel so bad
>> that he sold all his ham stuff and went back to 11 meters. I felt 
>> sorry for
>> him but he was given good advice and didn't follow it. Most everyone 
>> knew
>> that if you were serious about increasing your DXCC totals, Mosley 
>> was not
>> the way to go! I worked my first 300 countries with that 2 el quad but
>> eventually switched to Yaesu FT-1000D and KLM "Big Sticks" 
>> monobanders and
>> ended up with my total of 355. So this is real world experience with the
>> Mosley/others; I always liked going up against any dude with a Mosley
>> antenna in a DX pileup... made life easier for me!  My 2 cents for 
>> sure lol
>> 73's Cort K4WI
>>
>>  ve4xt at mymts.net <mailto:ve4xt at mymts.net>
>>> Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:54 PM
>>> The point many Mosley supporters don't seem to understand is that from
>>> the results of one antenna, you cannot derive any knowledge about 
>>> whether
>>> it is outperforming another yagi of comparable cost or dimensions.
>>>
>>> A person who puts up a TH7 and uses it exclusively for ten years can
>>> proclaim he was happy with the performance, but has no basis for
>>> proclaiming it would have outperformed, say, a Skyhawk, JK 
>>> Tribander, X7 or
>>> even a Pro57.
>>>
>>> Someone who took down a TA 33 and replaced it with an A4s and 
>>> notices an
>>> improvement DOES have a basis for regretting buying the TA33, however.
>>>
>>> An engineer and a tower expert who create a scientific plan for 
>>> comparing
>>> antennas and execute that plan do have a basis for saying that one 
>>> brand of
>>> antennas was inferior to competing, comparable models, as well.
>>>
>>> The plural of anecdote is not data. Only by sound comparison can one 
>>> say
>>> for certain that spending $1,500 with Mosley is better than spending 
>>> $1,500
>>> with DX Engineering or Hy-Gain or JK.
>>>
>>> 73, Kelly
>>> ve4xt
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
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Roger (K8RI)

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