[TowerTalk] Tower installtion question

[Roger (K8RI) on TT]

On 1/16/2015 3:59 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>> ## Do they want your living room windows to survive a 139 mph wind
>> too ??
>

I understand that even with the regs insurance is difficult to get and 
very expensive if you find some.

73

Roger  (K8RI)

> Yes. 140 MPH is "Miami-Dade" specifications for windows, doors, etc.
> and is incorporated in the building codes of most of Florida these
> days.  Seminole Country, FL is no different.  The insurance industry
> has pushed that on a growing part of Florida following hurricane Andrew
> and every other major hurricane for the last 30 years.
>
> Unfortunately, building regulations have stupidity built in ... like
> tile roofs that act like an fission reaction (when one tile breaks it
> creates shrapnel that breaks five or six more tiles resulting in the
> loss of tiles in an entire neighborhood <G>).  Applying the same 139
> MPH standards to a 50 foot tower surrounded by trees and tow story
> homes as applied to 1500' commercial towers is a bit absurd but that's
> the rule statewide.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2015-01-16 12:23 PM, Jim Thomson wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 07:50:54 -0500
>> From: bcarling at cfl.rr.com
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower installtion question
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> My local city Building Department wants me to prove that my proposed 
>> (24 foot) tower
>> installation with a 3 element beam for 17m & 12m can withstand 139 
>> mph winds before they
>> will issue a permit.
>>
>> Does this sound even remotely reasonable and compliant with PRB-1 ?
>>
>> Thanks for your views - Brian Carling AF4K
>>
>> ##  Do they want your living room windows to survive a 139 mph wind 
>> too ??
>> Every tree in the neighbourhood would come crashing down, and u would 
>> have zero
>> shingles left on your roof.   Your fence would be half a mile down 
>> the street, and your
>> car would be flipped over in the driveway.  Your roof would be ripped 
>> right off.
>>
>> ##  What happens when trees  topple your 24 foot tall tower ? Do they 
>> also want the
>> 3 el yagi to be able to survive 139 mph wind too..or just the tower + 
>> mast ?
>>
>> ##  I can see where they could then make a case for the yagis to 
>> handle 139 mph.
>> If the 150-200 lb yagi came crashing down..onto philystran guy wires, 
>> it would slice em
>> in half.... bringing the tower down.   In effect, they are doing an 
>> end run... effectively
>> banning all ham towers.   Once they have effectively gotten rid of 
>> new ham installations,
>> word will spread to other towns nearby..as Mayors like to brag about 
>> this stuff.  The other’s
>> will follow suit.   “want to get rid of ham towers...just impose a 
>> MIN 139 mph rating on their
>> tower, ants, mast,coax, guy wires, rotors, and anything else you can 
>> think of. “
>> Bye-bye ham radio.
>>
>> Jim   VE7RF
>>
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Roger (K8RI)


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