[TowerTalk] US Tower HDX-589MDPL UP/DOWN switch failure

Joe Subich, W4TV lists at subich.com
Thu Jul 2 07:20:54 EDT 2015


 > Looking over the wiring diagram for the control box after the fact,
 > I am questioning why UST did not just simply wire the two limit
 > switches in series, then just use the UP/DOWN toggle switch to break
 > the connection between the series-wired limit switches and the motor.

With the limit switches in series you would not be able to move the
tower off either limit.

It would be better to use a 4PDT center off to switch hot/neutral or
a using separate switches - one to control direction the other to
switch power.  The problem with the two switch version is the need
to remember to stop motion before reversing direction.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-07-02 12:34 AM, k2cb at comcast.net wrote:
> I recently had an interesting issue with my HDX-589MDPL tower.  I am
> posting my experience, hoping it saves someone from a potentially
> catastrophic event. We had a rather intense storm rip through the
> Philadelphia suburbs last week, so on the side of caution, I made the
> wise decision to run outside and lower my tower down somewhat before
> the storm approached my area to the east.  Good decision - we had
> numerous trees down and a few broken power poles, resulting in a 30
> hour power outage.......... But the tower and antennas made it
> through unscathed.
>
> However, as I was retracting the tower, once it reached my desired
> level, I went to place the UP/OFF/DOWN toggle switch in the OFF
> position.  However, the tower kept moving in the downward direction.
> In a panic, I flipped the switch up, then back down to the OFF
> position, which made no change. Fortunately the GFI outlet was within
> reach, so I simply tripped the GFI test button to stop the tower.
> Upon resetting the GFI outlet, even with the switch in the OFF
> position, I heard a loud buzz emanating from the tower motor. Not
> good. However, if moved the switch to the UP position, the tower
> would move up, but going back to OFF, the tower would still continue
> moving up.  I had to pull the power cord or trip the GFI outlet to
> stop the tower.
>
> Fortunately,  I had the tower down to a safe level. The storm was
> fast approaching, so I called it a day and figured I would
> investigate further the next day...........
>
> In the meantime, I placed a call to US Tower. One of their
> electricians kindly returned my call, explained the design of the
> control box, and emailed me a block diagram.
>
> The next day, once power was restored, I did some troubleshooting.
> While the tower was moving in the downward direction, the lower limit
> switch was tested, and the tower was able to be stopped by manually
> engaging the lower limit switch.  However, when performing the same
> test in the upward direction, the upper limit switch had no effect,
> and the tower continued to move upward. Fortunately I performed these
> tests with the tower somewhere around halfway up, so it was not much
> of a concern at the time. However, had I decided to fully extend the
> tower, the results could have been disastrous!
>
> Next, I decided to pull the cover off the control box on the side of
> the tower.
>
> The motor and limit switches are controlled via the toggle switch,
> which is a 3PDT center off switch made by Carling Technologies.  Two
> of the poles are used to reverse the phasing of the motor direction
> control leads, and the third pole is used to supply the main neutral
> feed to the motor. The main hot lead is hard wired to the motor at
> all times. The center of this third pole feeds the motor, the up side
> connects to the return from the upper limit switch, and the down side
> of the switch connects to the return from the lower limit switch.
> Both limit switches are hard wire fed from the AC supply neutral. The
> limit switches each provide their own neutral path back to the toggle
> switch. The toggle switch simply selects which limit switch is in
> effect at the time. The upper limit switch is in effect when the
> switch is in the up position, and the lower limit switch is in effect
> when the switch is in the down position. When the tower is NOT at
> either limit, both limit switches are conducting a neutral return
> back to the toggle switch.
>
> Now here is where things get bad real quick - in my case, the common
> terminal and the lower terminal of the third pole of my switch failed
> in a SHORTED condition!  Basically, the motor was connected to
> neutral at all times via the lower limit switch. Thus the reason the
> tower would move in the proper direction once the switch was thrown
> up or down, but would not stop once turned off. Also, if left in the
> OFF position, and power was applied to the AC cord, the motor would
> buzz due to lack of direction control lead supply, while main hot and
> neutral were now immediately present at the time of plug-in.
>
> Fortunately, I was moving in a downward direction when the switch
> decided to fail shorted in the DOWN direction. Had I fully lowered
> the tower, the lower limit switch would have still taken effect and
> broken the neutral path.  However, had I decided to raise the tower
> with this switch failure condition, the upper limit switch would have
> been of no use, as the lower limit switch was still in the circuit,
> supplying the neutral return at the same time as the upper limit
> switch!  I surely would be telling a different story at this point!
>
> I tested further and made sure the limit switches themselves were ok,
> and that the motor was still functioning properly. I then began the
> search for a replacement toggle switch.
>
> The next day I ran over to my nearest Grainger Supply warehouse,
> where I was able to pick up an exact replacement switch.
>
> For future reference, the switch is a CARLING TECHNOLOGIES HM254-73
> 3PDT ON-OFF-ON SWITCH.    It is also available from Mouser for a few
> bucks less before shipping, but I wanted it right away.
>
> I installed the switch in short order. UST did a nice job of using
> spade lugs on all of the wires, and the switch uses brass screw
> terminals. $25 and a few hours later I had the tower tested and back
> to normal operation.
>
> Looking over the wiring diagram for the control box after the fact, I
> am questioning why UST did not just simply wire the two limit
> switches in series, then just use the UP/DOWN toggle switch to break
> the connection between the series-wired limit switches and the motor.
> This way, both limit switches are always inline when the circuit is
> completed, and in the event of a switch failure such as I just
> experienced, both limit switches would still function at all times,
> regardless of motor switch direction, thus avoiding a potentially
> catastrophic event. If the toggle switch were to fail shorted, at
> least either limit switch could break the neutral return path
> regardless of the switch direction.
>
> Summary: Do yourself a favor and regularly test the toggle and limit
> switches as part of your routine maintenance
> inspections.........................
>
> Eric K2CB
>
>
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