[TowerTalk] Homebrew tower...

[Chuck Dietz]

If one used water pipe with extra braces, I would expect the tower to collapse under its own weight. I think wood would be more suitable, if it is available. 

Chuck W5PR

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> On Jun 28, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g at windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Galvanized water pipe is NOT very good as a strength member.  If you use it you will have to make allowances to get the overall tower strength you need.  Braces (lattice elements) will have to be closer together than with other stronger material.  This means you can not safely copy a commercially made tower since your materials are not as strong as theirs.  You will need more and closer lattice elements.
> 
> It has been my experience when flattening the end of a galvanized water pipe by hammering it on an anvil or using a 20 ton hydraulic press that you can get it to crack or split.  Heating it first and flattening while hot works.  There are DIY You Tube videos on making your own forge out of a scrap car or truck brake drum
> 
> I wish you the best of luck with your project.  I too have a very non standard tower project in process.  For a little info on that take a look at QRZ.com  NJ5G  and scroll down to the pictures.
> 
> Again good luck with your project.
> 
> Patrick   NJ5G
> 
>> On 6/27/2015 11:45 AM, Douglas Ruz wrote:
>> Hello everybody !!!.
>> 
>> Thank you very much for all ideas !!!...it is amazing...i am learning a lot.
>> 
>> Let me try give more information to all of you.
>> 
>> FIRST, Bryan, WA7PRC, you are absolutely RIGHT..."Reinvent the wheel" is a trouble but i have not other choice...
>> 
>> Gerald, K5GW, yes i can get guy wires from electric power company...so, guy wires are not a problem.
>> 
>> Jim Lux, sorry, i have not a lot of pipes and ground space, so, self supporting is not possible. Guyed tower is my choice.
>> 
>> Rick, N6RK, yes, i am talking about 3/4 inch galvanized water pipe.
>> 
>> I am not the welder...I have been talking with the welder and he knows it is dangerous welding galvanized parts but he work in OPEN SPACE with a FAN to remove all gases.
>> He is also thinking use a CONTACT SOLDERING MACHINE and not a classic ELECTRIC SOLDERING MACHINE...less gases.
>> 
>> To join sections i found that using a piece of 1 inch water pipe, after "cleaning" the inside with a drill work perfect. Using bolts in both sides to join each section.
>> 
>> I am WORRY about TWO THINGS:
>> 
>> TOWER STRENGHT: Is strong enought the 3/4 inch water pipe and 5/16 bars for braces to replicate a Rohn 25G ??
>> 
>> CORROSION: Heat during welding destroy galvanized protection...i can not galvanized after welding...maybe some cold galvanizing is possible...I am worry about corrosion...maybe painting inmediately after soldering minimize corrosion.
>> 
>> I am listening (READING).
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 73...Doug, CO8DM
>> "No creo que haya alguna emoción más intensa para un inventor que ver alguna de sus creaciones funcionando. Esa emoción hace que uno se olvide de comer, de dormir, de todo." - Nikola Tesla
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Bryan Swadener
>>   To: co8dm at frcuba.co.cu
>>   Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 2:14 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Homebrew tower...
>> 
>> 
>>   Hi Douglas,
>> 
>> 
>>   IMO, it's too much trouble to "reinvent the wheel". You need to be not only the fabricator but also, structural engineer. Then, after you've designed and fabricated the parts, you'll want to hot-dip galvanize the parts so they'll last a long time.  Just save your money to buy what you want. I did exactly that.
>> 
>> 
>>   vy 73 es gl,
>>   Bryan WA7PRC
>>   http://www.tinyurl.com/wa7prc-tower
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>     Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:50:40 -0400
>>     From: "Douglas Ruz" <co8dm at frcuba.co.cu>
>>     To: <towertalk at contesting.com>
>>     Subject: [TowerTalk] Homebrew tower...
>> 
>>     Hello,
>> 
>>     I would like a tower in my property but i can not buy a Rohn or any other tower, so, I WILL BUILD ONE...or will try build one.
>> 
>>     I have many galvanized tubes, 7 ft long, 1 1/32 inch diameter and 1/8 inch wall.
>> 
>>     I have been reading dimensions of Rohn 25G and 45G...i like 25G.
>> 
>>     My goals are:
>>     -Reach about 50 ft high.
>>     -Install a rotator.
>>     -Install a lightweight tribander yagi (maybe an spiderbeam), a 6m yagi (5 elem) and maybe 2 elem moxon for 40m...I know 50ft is not OK for a 40m antenna but my anchor points are to close, so, i can not install a higher tower.
>> 
>>     I have another important questions...it is about GUY LINES...what is the cheapest guy line solution ???
>> 
>>     73....Douglas, CO8DM
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