[TowerTalk] Buried section base...and lightning protection.

jimlux jimlux at earthlink.net
Tue Jan 5 15:09:41 EST 2016


On 1/5/16 9:42 AM, Ken wrote:
> I am totally amazed at  how concrete has weakened over the years.

More that people care more about edge cases and unlikely scenarios.

All the changes in regulatory codes are usually in response to some "bad 
event" and a desire to "make sure that can't happen again".

In a commercial environment (which is what Rohn, et al, design for and 
what local codes contemplate when making tradeoffs), the incremental 
cost of a cubic yard of concrete against the total job cost (including 
labor!) is pretty small.

By and large, businesses and regulators don't contemplate "homebrew" 
implementations with self provided labor when making the tradeoffs. You 
see this all the time with building codes.

>
> When I put up my 64' UNGUYED Heights tower in 1970, 4'x4'x4' was all 
> that was required and that held a tribander and other antennas for 
> years (rebar wasn't mentioned and it was hand mixed concrete).   For a 
> 50' guyed tower, all I used was 30" square and 8" deep.
>
> But that was back  before we had modern computers to tell us it 
> wouldn't work.
>
> Ken WA8JXM
>
> On 1/4/16 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> Rohn recommends more. 3 ft x 3 ft, 4 ft x 4 ft.  More mass in the 
>> ground is better when the wind blows.
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