[TowerTalk] HFTA disc....

Grant Saviers grants2 at pacbell.net
Fri Jul 15 12:43:47 EDT 2016


Rudy,

That is a great idea to develop HFTA further, or replace it entirely.  
If I understood N6BV's  comments at a conference last year it is an old 
mainframe Fortran card deck program with all the memory limitations that 
implies. IRRC he has no inclination to revisit it either.  So, he and 
the ARRL may welcome a major upgrade.  Besides GUI tweaking, I think 
there could be a lot more functionality added given the supercomputer 
capabilities of current PCs.

The GUI upgrades for driving VOACAP  are pretty interesting and the 
Fortran source is in the public domain.  Lots of data at voacap.com.

Grant KZ1W



On 7/15/2016 4:15 AM, Rudy Bakalov via TowerTalk wrote:
> First off, this was a proposal, not a statement. Quite the difference.
>
> Second, the thought behind the proposal is to further development of otherwise stale software.
>
> With respect to the ownership of the intellectual property, by and large the US law states is that whoever paid for the development owns the IP. If the code was developed during someone's ARRL employment, it is the ARRL that owns the IP unless the ARRL explicitly waived its rights.
>
> By the way, the statement about paying for the right to use the software is a slippery slope too. The issue is lack of support. In the past I did have problems with the software and there was nobody to provide support.
>
> Again, the proposal is not about avoiding paying for the software, but about its further development. I have 3 copies of the software.
>
> Rudy N2WQ
>
> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate autocorrect.
>
>
>> On Jul 15, 2016, at 6:51 AM, W3YY <w3yy at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> No, you haven't paid for the source code.  You paid to use the program.
>>
>> I know of no agreement to open-sourcing the code in any agreement between
>> N6BV and the ARRL.
>>
>> As hams, we've been blessed to have many exceptional PC programs provided
>> and supported free of charge or included with ARRL publications.  But those
>> programs are not open-sourced and we can't expect programmers to give away
>> their code for free.
>>
>> 73 , Bob - W3YY
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rudy
>> Bakalov via TowerTalk
>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 5:24 AM
>> To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com
>> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HFTA disc....
>>
>> Well, all this has been funded by the ARRL dues.  We members have all paid
>> for it.
>>
>> It's not about the funding though. I have purchased 3 copies of the book and
>> have the software. But by locking it in the book the software has seen no
>> further development.
>>
>> Rudy N2WQ
>>
>> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate
>> autocorrect.
>>
>>
>>>> On Jul 14, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu,7/14/2016 6:08 PM, Rudy Bakalov via TowerTalk wrote:
>>>> This would be a great program to open source.
>>> Well, ARRL paid N6BV's salary when he was writing it, and the two of them
>> have chosen to distribute it with the Antenna Book. That's a great
>> reference, well worth owning.
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
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